[NEOPO]

Hey Matt,
What do you think about these idiots who want to move to ecovillages and get all sustainable and poop in buckets and such?

I mean, you arent doing anything dumb like that and you understand peak oil way way more then most of us.

Personally I think we are all just hardwired like robots and thats exactly why these kinda people want to go to the woods.
They also seek power over people like jim jones and david koresh.
Someone told me once that this was why most people do any of that crazy cultish type stuff, because they are seeking social or political power and I believe that person was correct.

Its good to see that altruism does exist in some of us as you gave up the chance to make 100k+ at some lawyer sweat shop to instead stay home, inform people about peak oil and yeah make alittle money while you are at it.

IMHO few have sacrificed as much as you have and I do not understand why more people just dont realize that it is hopeless and that there isnt much anyone can do about it.

Anyways.... keep on tryin to educate them one at a time man, if anyone can do it its you bro.

[PolestaR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'H')ey Matt,
What do you think about these idiots who want to move to ecovillages and get all sustainable and poop in buckets and such?

I mean, you arent doing anything dumb like that and you understand peak oil way way more then most of us.

Personally I think we are all just hardwired like robots and thats exactly why these kinda people want to go to the woods.
They also seek power over people like jim jones and david koresh.
Someone told me once that this was why most people do any of that crazy cultish type stuff, because they are seeking social or political power and I believe that person was correct.

Its good to see that altruism does exist in some of us as you gave up the chance to make 100k+ at some lawyer sweat shop to instead stay home, inform people about peak oil and yeah make alittle money while you are at it.

IMHO few have sacrificed as much as you have and I do not understand why more people just dont realize that it is hopeless and that there isnt much anyone can do about it.

Anyways.... keep on tryin to educate them one at a time man, if anyone can do it its you bro.

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ey Matt,
What do you think about these idiots who want to move to ecovillages and get all sustainable and poop in buckets and such?

[Bas]

heheh

[PolestaR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'b')oy does that bring back memories. I had gone down to los angeles for a job interview. Came back and the site was getting thousands of visitors per hour. LATOC had previously gotten a link at whatreallyhappenedcom and that brought in 7,000 or so in a day. The fark link brought in 100,000 visits in 2 days.

[rostov]

Cuz I was desperately watchful on keeping our heads (family) above water.

All it took was a little bit of panic, fear, and paranioa (sp?), and narcissm(sp?), etc etc to read all sides of the story, and be a little watchful. Reading through that discussion in fark is really depressing, but at the same time gives me hope : when we're in a I-told-you-so-situation WTSHTFAWKI, all these folks would be slightly under water to begin with. Hopefully they'll undo themselves for population footprint reduction (suicide, strive, starvation, etc)

Been a long road, and so much so much more. Slashdot, PO.com (massive reading), panic, massive research and discussion (latter failed -- denial from all parties), country migration, rooting, bug-out plans, sustainable exploitation of the weaker unprepared folks, etc.

I guess it's still because I want my family to be in Terminus. If there is massive effort to acquire NZ by the elites, who knows? Trantorized NZ?

Doesn't matter. I'm now interested in who the folks who knew the signs of a declining civilization were, what they thought, and what they did. Evangelizing about PO is so trivial now...

[Aaron]

Behold the power of cheese.

[128shot]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('128shot', 'I') wanted to see what was up with the rising gas prices. I wouldn't take "the oil companies/OPEC is responsible for this" mindset. I want a more believable answer.



I still don't believe peak oil is the end of civilization though.....

[TheDude]

World Book Science and Technology Supplement, 1978. Oil will run out early in the 21st Century, but don't worry, there's plenty of natural gas, and these things called fuel cells that run on hydrogen! Put a worried 7 year old's mind at ease, at least until Reagan got elected and put more money into ICBM's.

"Professional idiot"? Real cottage industry, that.
What do you make of Raphael, Matt? I honestly can't read a single sentence from either of these mopes. They make Kant read like Hemingway.

[NEOPO]

Professional Peak Oil idiot, now there's an idea!
We don't need no stinkin' John Denver's or Lorenzo's!

There are several conclusions many of us have come to realize and that we find reinforced daily:
1. the sheeple will never wake up
2. the shepard's are evil or at least as blind as the sheeple
3. the world is a vampire sent to drain
4. there is no solution for 6.5 billion people, there are not enough "lifeboats"which is the makings of a very tragic scenario we sometimes refer to as overshoot.

If we add in climate change and all the other factors that seem to be converging it would appear that all is folly and what we are seeing now is a bunch of wishful thinking.
If anything the knowledge of Peak Oil has informed most of us about our inevitable suffering and death as a result of the ramifications of peak oil of which we are incapable of doing anything real about.

Anyways - not sure about the nAgative way in which you took my previous post, just trying to point out the obvious sir.
Why should anyone do anything more or less then what their hero is doing?

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'b')oy does that bring back memories. I had gone down to los angeles for a job interview. Came back and the site was getting thousands of visitors per hour. LATOC had previously gotten a link at whatreallyhappenedcom and that brought in 7,000 or so in a day. The fark link brought in 100,000 visits in 2 days.

[PolestaR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'M')cfly,

Did I not just get done saying that exactly? That the success of LATOC was a matter of being in the right place at the right time.

Dig through my previous posts, I"ve said it numerous times: there was nothing on LATOC that Jay Hanson and others had not articulated earlier and in more depth. The only difference was I put it in a question and answer format right as the meme was about to pop due to things like the war in Iraq, the rising price of gas, Katrina, etc.

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PolestaR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'M')cfly,

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'M')aybe instead of spending your time with your doomerporn site you could PM NeoPo and you two could start a "professional idiot rental" firm. Kind of like those "protestors for hire" in Germany from the link I put up above except instead of renting protestors people could rent you two out as professional dumbasses. Seriously, everybody is the best at something and I think you two have the potential to be the Michael Jordan and Larry Bird of general global asshatery.

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '
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<bounce passes the ball off of matts head to polestar>

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '
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<bounce passes the ball off of matts head to polestar>

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
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Why not put your efforts into something sustainable since most people agree that this is the only thing that is going to get any of us through what we are about to receive?

[PrairieMule]

How did I find out about Peakoil? My dad has been a offshore petroleum engineer for 40 years and up till last year was on the advisory board for the Offshore West Africa annual confrence representing Willbros and Vanco Energy. Working in oil industry in Houston he eventually met Matt Simmons in the 80's back when he was at Gulf Oil.

About 15 years ago it started as a buzz amoungst oil execs and anyone involved with oil production that "You will run out of cheap abundant energy in your lifetime" which filtered down to me. I don't think I really got a fire lit under my ass until two years ago about the depth of Peakoil(EROEI, Alternatives, infrastructures and the economic pitfalls)when Matt was on Coast to Coast. That's how I found this site.