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Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Europe

Unread postby Polemic » Thu 11 Jan 2007, 22:25:25

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Hands over her eyes and her face gripped with terror, the woman’s fear of death is all too obvious.

The remarkable mummy was found in a hidden burial vault in the Amazon.

It is at least 600 years old and has survived thanks to the embalming skills of her tribe, the Chachapoyas or cloud warriors.

Eleven further mummies were recovered from the massive cave complex 82ft down.

The vault—which was also used for worship—was chanced upon three months ago by a farmer working at the edge of northern Peru’s rainforest. He tipped off scientists who uncovered ceramics, textiles and wall paintings.

The Chachapoyas were a tall, fairhaired, light-skinned race that some researchers believe may have come from Europe.

Little is known about them except that they were one of the more advanced ancient civilisations in the area. Adept at fighting, they commanded a large kingdom from the year 800 to 1500 that stretched across the Andes. It is not known what the Chachapoyas actually called themselves—they are identified by the name given to them by their rivals and eventual conquerors, the Incas.

It comes from the Inca’s Quechua language and means ‘cloud people’, because of the high forests in the clouds that the Chachapoyas inhabited. Virtually all record of the tribe was lost when the Incas were themselves overrun by the Spanish conquistadors who landed in 1512.

They have, however, left behind a spectacular citadel, called Kuelap, 10,000ft up in the Andes. It has more than 400 buildings and defensive towers, many of them with decorated walls, cornices and friezes. Some experts rate Kuelap more highly than the Incan ruins at Machu Picchu.

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Re: Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Eur

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 11 Jan 2007, 22:40:41

Man, that's what I looked like late on election night 2004.

Arrrrgh!
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Re: Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Eur

Unread postby TITAN » Thu 11 Jan 2007, 23:38:01

I think it's pretty safe to say that any amount of archaelogy, at best, is only going to uncover a small fraction of what has occurred in the past.

I really wish someone would get off their ass and invent time travel...

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Re: Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Eur

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The Chachapoyas were a tall, fairhaired, light-skinned race that some researchers believe may have come from Europe.

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Re: Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Eur

Unread postby shakespear1 » Fri 12 Jan 2007, 05:17:09

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Re: Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Eur

Unread postby pea-jay » Fri 12 Jan 2007, 05:31:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TITAN', 'I') think it's pretty safe to say that any amount of archaelogy, at best, is only going to uncover a small fraction of what has occurred in the past.


It's even safer to say if things go really badly for our civilization, future archeologists/sucessor species/or intergalactic visitors will have a field day pick over our remains. So much to uncover...
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Re: Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Eur

Unread postby gg3 » Sun 14 Jan 2007, 03:30:41

Very interesting stuff. The question is, how and when did they cross over from Europe to the Americas? For example did they take the northern route like the Norse, or did they find a southern route?

I'm also wondering if those mummies might contain any genetic material that could be sequenced to figure out what part of Europe was the origin of these people.

Their existence could certainly make all manner of trouble for the prevailing theories of how & why Europeans came to the Americas.
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Re: Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Eur

Unread postby Polemic » Sun 14 Jan 2007, 04:14:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', ' ')The question is, how and when did they cross over from Europe to the Americas?


The how is probably explained here. The Canary Islands could be the key:

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Above: The position of the Canary Islands and the route of the Canaries Current to and from the Americas. The existence of the red-haired Guanches on the Canary Islands, combined with the red-haired pre-Columbus mummies found in South America and the marked similarity in pyramid building styles, indicate that Whites probably used the Canaries Current to cross the Atlantic, most likely between 2000 and 500 BC. Columbus himself used the Canaries Current, setting out from the Canary Islands on his first crossing of the Atlantic in 1492 AD.
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Re: Extinct Andean “cloud people” may have originated in Eur

Unread postby Falconoffury » Mon 15 Jan 2007, 17:54:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'p').s. Einstein says there is no going back.


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