[grabby]

It is the final nail to destroy our independance, and that is what it is all about.
The school systems have been tearing down Nationalism, George Washington, Paul revere, and the pilgrims and now those children are running the country.
wadya expect?
PS NAFTA slammed our farmers, super nafta will super slam the farmers. no more food when the oil runs down.

and that will leave behind a LOT of poor illegals, who will sell drugs to your kids and steal your CD players when there is no farming to be done any more.

The whole idea is a Benedict Arnold idea, but amazingly it is legal.

Teamsters won't be needed, to many people available for work.

[PrairieMule]

Alex Jones has done a lot of research on the NAFTA super highway and what grabbed my attention was the sub standard concrete being used.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ope for what? Importing the problems of the third world to the US?

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'A')lex Jones has done a lot of research on the NAFTA super highway and what grabbed my attention was the sub standard concrete being used.

[Armageddon]

we are inching our way closer to a one world government. The writing is on the wall. If they can unite north America, that's one less obstacle

[Armageddon]

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/Interview_Corsi.html

corsi's interview about the nafta superhighway. Sorry if it has already been posted. It's pretty good. See ya american sovereignty. It all makes sense now. Open borders, huge government debt, dollar demise etc.

[Graeme]

ASIAN TRADE BLOC WOULD RIVAL NAFTA, EU

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')acked by the economic muscle of Japan and China, a new free-trade zone representing almost half of the world's population could soon be emerging in Asia to challenge the older spheres of the Western world.

The free-trade idea, spearheaded by a Japanese promise of ¥10-billion ($95-million) for a detailed study of how to make it work, won support yesterday from the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) at a meeting in Malaysia.

Plans for the trade zone, originally aimed for completion in 2020, are now being accelerated. The new goal is to have the trade zone established by 2015. It would cover 16 nations -- the 10 members of ASEAN plus China, Japan, South Korea, India, Australia and New Zealand.

The zone would have a combined population of 3.1 billion, almost half of the global population. Its total economic output would be almost $10-trillion (U.S.) -- about a quarter of the world's GDP.

[LaLaLand]

My first question is: How many of you are from Texas, and what do you know about this transnational corridor? A lot of it's aspects are stemming out of Houston. Who is from Kansas City? What have your local politicians said about this project? What has the warehousing industrialists been saying? Are MAJOR land buys going on along the proposed route? Is the Kansas and Texas media saying anything about it? Anyone seen/heard any PRO super highway propaganda in Kansas or Texas?

How much TAX subsidization is going into this project? Why are federal politicians totally mute about this project? Is the NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY good for working class American tax payers? Or is it another avenue of government theft?

[PrairieMule]

It sure doesn't protect America's borders. Right now I understand it's getting close to Austin. I imagine when it approached Dallas we will hear more about it. Lots of dirty politicians have paved the way with our tax dollars. I have sent e-mails to my state rep and the governor. I have no doubt our current governor Rick Perry is deep in someones pocket. According to Texas Monthly, our Governor Perry responded to San Antonio Toll Party picketing in public with a middle finger.

Don't blame me I voted for Kinky.

[PrairieMule]

On a similar subject, I live in The Colony which is at the edge of the new HWY 121 tollroad. What makes this tollroad a special is that no tollbooths are present. Instead it elecronicly reads a toll tag(soon to be replaced later this year with RFID chip in a clear sticker). If you do not have a tolltag or RFID sticker the toll road has digital cameras that photograph your lisc plate and mail you a bill. I got my 1st bill for $1.61 yesterday for my December use for a road my Denton county tax dollars paid for in 1998. For that I want to say to my governor F--K YOU GOV PERRY! F--K YOU VERY MUCH!

[emersonbiggins]

Seeing as I once hailed from one of the small cities in the center of this NASCO corridor, I can say that while growth/property acquisitions have occurred, it certainly isn't anything not seen before. Ardmore has several DCs for major retailers like Circuit City/Best Buy, etc., but these existed long before talk of any 'superhighway' corridor.

For the record, I am for the rail portions of the TTC being built, and on the fence about the toll road portions, and certainly not for added sprawl, which is the direction the TTC is heading ("why doesn't my county road have an onramp to this thing"? etc, etc...). If we are near the peak of individual mobility (which I think is about accurate), I'd just as soon we not spend billions to accommodate the 'theoretical' traffic which will probably not exist fifty years from now in its current form.

OTOH, if the current interstate system had been built in the mold of TTC (loosely based on the Autobahn/Strada/Route system), toll roads with very limited access, we wouldn't even be discussing peak oil right now, but perhaps 50 years from now.

[LaLaLand]

I don't want to derail this thread... BUT... How much is your property tax bill? If you don't mind, could you describe what kind of dwelling you reside in and the conditions of the neighborhood? What do people get out of their property taxes in the town you live in?

I've always wondered how Texas handles its social services considering how low its taxes are. Is/are affordable land, good jobs, continuing education, and utilities easy to come by if you are willing to go the distance to attain them? Is healthcare affordable? I'm not exactly the hardest worker out there, but I can manage if I put my mind to my tasks. If you don't act like an asshole towards your neighbors, is it really true you can do whatever you want on your own private land without to many people bothering you?

I'm pretty socially liberal and enjoy chatting with different and interesting people, but I'm sick and tired of answering to my local/state government every time I want to invest in my private real estate projects. Is it true Texans are avid VICE/SIN law advocates, IE beholden to the "law" of the Bible (whatever that is)? I know, I know, everyone is different... I'm not trying to stereotype; I’m just trying to find out if Austin/Austin Metro is worth a visit.

Just wondering...

[PrairieMule]

For 2006, Denton county valued my house as 117K and taxes for county and school were around $2800 together. For 2007 it should be less with the new $1 tax added to a pack of cigarettes.

So please, light up Dallas! Please "drag" down my property taxes.

[emersonbiggins]

Heh, just so you know, Austin does not resemble Texas in any way, shape or form. Expect micromanagement at the city level, but you'll probably get the same treatment anywhere there is a formidable HOA at work (Dallas, Houston, their suburbs, etc...) Until a few years ago, Houston didn't have a zoning code, which made for some, errr..., 'interesting' development patterns, but I'm not sure that is still the case there. If you're looking for a good deal of privacy, there's still plenty of land around Austin, and though west of Austin is more scenic, there are environmental and resource constraints to deal with.

I don't own property in Austin, but taxes run around 1% per year, or so I'm told. I live in a pretty shiatty duplex, circa 1971, which would probably sell for $225k. I wouldn't touch it for that, but somebody must, or they wouldn't sell many properties here.

*EDIT* Property taxes, per $1k value, are less in Austin, than up north around Dallas, but cost of living (incl. real estate) is 20-30% higher here. I can make a $10k lateral move in my favor if I move to Dallas, and pay WAY less for a similar house, though property taxes, as an annual amount ($2-3k/year) won't change much with the move.

[frankthetank]

Just paid are taxes...2160 on a house of similiar value here in WI.

[emersonbiggins]

My parents pay $1500/yr in taxes for a house valued at $140k AND the 170 acres it sits on.
Oklahoma is good to its retirees.

[LaLaLand]

I live in Madison, WI; a 1700sf house (typical post WWII size) sitting on a 120ft x 300ft lot in a decent neighborhood would be taxed around $4200.00 a year. My sister's neighbors pay a little under $10,000.00 for a 2700sf house in a really nice neighborhood. The mayor and 7 of the city council members are admitted Socialists. They aren't even shy about asking for tax increases in order to "better regulate" the city's economy.

Anyway, back to transnational "super highways".

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('LaLaLand', '
')Anyway, back to transnational "super highways".

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emersonbiggins', '
')Maybe they'll charge skateboarders to trick out on the completed portions.

[NEOPO]

Militarization and the Deconstruction of North America

American currency union

The Plan to Replace the Dollar With the 'Amero'

Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America
I got a kick out of the myths and facts page
It seems these people like to tell us before they punch us in the face "like a new pearl harbor"......