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Life in the Hood

Unread postby Ayoob » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 02:52:26

This is a thread specifically directed towards those of us that live in or work in the hood. I can't believe it, but the new ambulance company I work for operates in South Central Los Angeles again. I thought I was never going to set foot in the hood again but oh no I'm back.

Ten dollars an hour.

Somebody shoot me in the face immediately for being so stupid as to agree to set foot in the hood again.

Tomorrow I'm bringing my gun to work again. I thought I was done with this shit but apparently God is having a little fun with me. My computer crapped out on me and my motorcycle needs a little work so You Guess Who has to go back to slinging people back and forth to the dialysis centers in South Central. Inglewood, Compton, South Central, all the old haunts I missed so much with their 25 cent porn booths and Bad To Da Bone BarBQ franchises and hey, you want a deal on spinnaz or a cell phone or anything?

Back to the Hood.

Please only post to this thread if you currently live in the hood or work in the hood. I would like to specifically disinvite SPG from posting her nonsense in this perfectly sensible discussion thread. I wish you luck in your quest to out-Man all of us in your hardy Montana paradise, but this one is for the hood rats that carry a knife and are fiercely protective of their coworkers. There is a baby with an appointment in a woodchipper that you should attend to, and I wish you the best of luck in your foul and disgusting hobby.

If you live in HotLanta or work in alphabet city or the south side of Chicago or anywhere that the urban environment decays into 20ft piles of stinking garbage, give me a shout out. I will not live in the hood, but apparently I'm willing to squeeze out the essence of my existence in this shithole in exchange for the princely sum of ten fucking dollars an hour.

Join with me and document what an economic collapse looks like. Take pictures, share stories, and detail that which is coming to Suburban America.

I'm going to be on the board for another day or two and then spend a beautiful week in Hawaii, and then for five weeks I'm ready to load up on 80 hours a week of simmering in the putrescence of South Central Los Angeles. Somebody stop me! (Actually, don't.)

Relocalization indeed. Will all the liberal bleeding heart fucktards please find another thread to pollute, I'm busy squeezing the pus out of this town and taking pictures.

Tomorrow night, I will have at least three pictures to share with you all. Until then, good night and good nightmares to you all.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 04:05:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'I') would like to specifically disinvite SPG from posting her nonsense in this perfectly sensible discussion thread.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby Polemic » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 05:26:22

This looks like a good place to drag out the old Ruins of Detroit page again.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 08:35:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'I') would like to specifically disinvite SPG from posting her nonsense in this perfectly sensible discussion thread.


No. She's smarter than you think.

Ten bucks an hour? Really?

If you are willing to expose yourself to jagged broken bones dripping with HIV infected blood for that amount of money, you really need to re-evaluate your priorities in life.

I have a friend in Irvine who earns more than that driving around to the homes of lazy housewives to assemble the exercise machine or coffee table they bought at Sears.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 11:38:02

Every time I look out my window and see "that building" (You all know which one I'm talking about, there's one in every city neighborhood) I say to myself "Hey, at least it's not Compton."

You've gotta be crazy doing it for 10 bucks an hour.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby Aaron » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 11:46:58

Welcome to South Central Los Angeles

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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby Falconoffury » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 12:27:50

I think it's time to spice up the old resume, and start posting at career builder or monster.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby Novus » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 13:26:00

It is ideas and visions like this that ultimately keep Bush and Republicans in power. Americans know what happened between between 1960 and 1980 to politics, race, and crime. We are not as dumb as we pretend to be. It is one of those erie unspoken truthes that we push to the back of our minds and try to pretend does not exist. To speak the truth openly is to be labeled a racist. It is a national denial if you will that justifies suburbia and our willingness to wage war for oil.

I live in New Jersey which in my opinion is the singular most racist state in the union. I traveled to Newark on several occasions and saw such ruins. Factories and werehouses that used to produce and store every good imaginable now sit as empty smashed shells. Burned out appartment blocks line the streets. The state is littered with a dozen such cities and scores of smaller little hellholes where the state houses its human trash. The state created "Abbot" districts with the singular purpose purpose of keeping blacks out of white schools bruied under 500 pages of leagal jiberish. The cost of "Abbot" is over $20,000/year per trash child disposed of. Few sneer at the cost when they realize the alternative. They are but holding pens until they are old enough to go prision. We are no better than NAZIS who atleast had the mercy to gas their "diversity" and the honesty to do so openly. When New Orleans drowned I now have the foresight to realize America was cheering the deaths and suffering of those drowned wretches.

I fear this is just a taste of what is about to come.

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Re: Life in the Hood

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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby threadbear » Wed 03 Jan 2007, 14:53:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I') think it's time to spice up the old resume, and start posting at career builder or monster.


You need to read Bait and Switch, by Barbara Ehrenreich. Posting at career builder or monster??You're kidding, aren't you?

Y'all post like Ayoob has picked from one of several options. What part of economic breakdown don't you understand? The "What colour is my parachute" endless opportunity, American dream bullshit, is dead, and has been for a long time, excluding the top 10%, who manage through corporate ass kissing or connections to get somewhere. We can't all be doctors. Someone has to drive the ambulances.

I guess I don't meet Ayboob's criteria for posting here, but couldn't resist. My apologies.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby pea-jay » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 03:38:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Polemic', 'T')his looks like a good place to drag out the old Ruins of Detroit page again.
nice pictures. but the site could can the racist monologue.

This is really how america's decline played out, starting circa 1950.

1) Old city infrastructure wears out. Tax-base don't have the balls or vision to repair it.
2) Tax-base builds first generation suburban sh#tholes in virgin farmland around old cities. (that land is no longer needed--post-war agriculture moves to California Central Valley)
3) abandoned cities deteriorate further.
4) poor people from America's colonies (the South, Puerto Rico, Phillipines etc.) move into city. Better life there than their current sh#tholes
5) Tax-base turns back on past and future.

It took generations for that once-beautiful steel and stone railroad station to deteriorate. Come peak oil, our suburban nightmare will crumble overnight. Ayoob you are a brave man. You will save a lot of beautiful lives. Is your job anything like that portrayed in "Broken Vessels?"


AGREED! The plight of Detroit was not due to racial changes; it was due to changing economic patterns that left a city unable to (economically) sustain ourselves. It also happened slowly and insiduously so that it slips under the collective radar.

Witness: New Orleans LOST over half its population and sustained major damage to its building stock in one calamitous event--and the whole world noticed. Detroit LOST over half its population and sustained major damage to its building stock over the course of half a century and only, planners, disaffected racists and urban history buffs cared enough to comment on. Chalk another one up for the "slowly boiling frog theory"

Now for the FUTURE:

6) Nonwhite population falls as even the disaffected move on or die off (even black population is falling in the urban cores)
7) Nature reclaims whole chunks of the city
8) Enterprising and/or those left totally on the edge start farming for sustenance, income or healing.

This is the Detroit you dont see:
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Green...Organic...Multi-racial...Inter-generational...hands-on...striving for self-sufficiency...

In the midst of chaos death and distintegration new life continues to spring forth (literally) from the ruins.

Detroit has over 80 active community gardens/urban farms

Detroit from above:

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looks like they can fit in a lot more.

Just thought you'd like the alternate view of the ghetto
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby Ayoob » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 04:13:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I') think it's time to spice up the old resume, and start posting at career builder or monster.


You need to read Bait and Switch, by Barbara Ehrenreich. Posting at career builder or monster??You're kidding, aren't you?

Y'all post like Ayoob has picked from one of several options. What part of economic breakdown don't you understand? The "What colour is my parachute" endless opportunity, American dream bullshit, is dead, and has been for a long time, excluding the top 10%, who manage through corporate ass kissing or connections to get somewhere. We can't all be doctors. Someone has to drive the ambulances.

I guess I don't meet Ayboob's criteria for posting here, but couldn't resist. My apologies.


If you do not live in the hood or work in the hood, then please do not post to this thread. Your opinions are worthless in the context of discussing personal experiences.

Today I saw things that you only see in movies. One was a street blowing with garbage in every direction, and food vendors deployed in this whirling dervish of garbage. Another one was a dilipidated shack that apparently is owned by some church or another, because somebody had appointed this structure with one sign that said something like First Church of God in Christ or whatever, and then had handpainted a sign with some kind of entirely too thick a brush and it read: Weddings Here.

Another was a guy that was balancing a 4x4x6 enormous blue plastic bag of I don't know what on his head while riding a bicycle around. Where are we, the Congo? You would not see anyone in a normal American part of the country somebody riding a bicycle and balancing anything other than a helmet on top of their heads. It is not civilized behavior to do this. We do not live in a third world country. Totally unacceptable, and should be ridiculed thoroughly.

There was one headsnapping shot of bizarreness after another. I had my cell phone camera out at dinner tonight and was telling stories, all four of us were laughing our heads off and pounding on the table with our fists at the pictures and the stories. I rack up more stories in a week than I did in a year. It comes so fast that you almost get used to it and think it's normal.

I understand the cops now. They live in this every day. It makes much more sense now.

Also to address threadbear, please do not make excuses for what I do for a living. I am investing my time in a medical career. I made a decision to leave sales and to reinvent myself in the medical field. EMT, because I could establish myself and make a living immediately. On my off time I study biology and am in a registered nursing program at my local community college. I was elected president of my class and am liked by the faculty and students. As and RN I will be essentially in a managerial or highly respected hands-on role in the medical field. With a Masters I can hang my own shingle and operate as a family practitioner, and probably more useful and advanced than an MD was 50 years ago (with the exception of surgeons). This is just a blip on the radar for me. I chose to do what I do to see the insides of the medical profession immediately while getting an education to better myself.

I end up in the hood in Los Angeles because apparently this is Mecca for dialysis. More diabetes in this area than in most, so I'm dragging Martha off to give her kidneys a break most of the time. While talking to retired paramedics and other EMS people who have been in the field for 20 years and are taking a break for a while. They can teach you something if you listen. The whole world can be your school and you can look anything up in the textbook that you want, and can read as many hours over and above the normal nursing student workload as you can put together. I have also put together my phlebotomy cert, and I understand that there is a medical center in Westwood that is hiring people just like me right now for more than double what my certificates amount to. Unfortunately, the student workload is such that I can't commit to as many hours as they would require. Until the summer, perhaps. It might be interesting to operate in that capacity for a couple of months.

Also consider that no doctor in my community would hire anyone without at least several years of experience to work as a phlebotomist. This is a skilled profession. You have to know what you are doing to draw from black, darker asian, and very large patients. Guess who you are going to see most of? I wonder. Six months in this part of town and you know what you're doing. You're not going to be digging for a vein. Then you can move on and move up.

Also, tonight I knocked one out on babycakes, a very highly paid executive at a local defense contractor who talks a lot of shit to the guys that blow up unexploded ordnance at the local military base and goes shooting with me and is generally a brilliant and sexy hardass.

I have no problems at all in my life. And she is taking me to Hawaii for a week starting very soon.

Would you like any advice on life, fuckface? I don't take any shit from people like you. I am proud of myself and have nothing but ambition and eyes on the prize. If you only knew. I live in a rich man's neighborhood. I love this place and everyone in it. I just want to give this whole neighborhood a hug. Two days ago I was driving down the street in my neighborhood and saw a large dead palm frond lying across the street. I love this place so much that I pulled over, picked up the palm frond, and moved it off the street to the gutter, just so nobody else would have to drive over it. I said that tonight in the restaurant and the men at the adjacent tables made eye contact with me and raised their beers to me. They know that I appreciate this place and will keep an eye out on their young daughters in the neighborhood. I'm a health services professional, and it is in my best interest to keep this neighborhood safe. Everybody I walk past says Hello to me, would you like to pet my dog?

It is like walking hand in hand with Christ every single day here. You have no idea how bad it can get in the hood. The amazing stupidity and fuckheadedness you find here will make you lust to be around your own people so hard... I just am so happy being among my own kind. We have such a rich history and tradition. My girl is interested in essentially taking on a role as a person in the community that would like to practice European traditions. She knows so much about the holidays and all the different European traditional handicrafts. It's really something. She weaves scarves and things like that. Do you understand that I'm totally content and happy with my life, its just that cameras are so cheap and there is so much ridiculousness all around us that I cannot help myself but document that which happens in the hood.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby Aaron » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 08:31:05

Well I spent 2 years living & working in South Atlanta... a pretty tough place.

I have also lived & worked in Palo Alto...

Can also be a rough place... rougher in fact.

Here's why...

In South Atlanta, the higher up the food chain I climbed, the more trustworthy my peers became. In Palo Alto, the exact opposite.

In South Atlanta (near 100% black), it was the lower-level "worker bees" you have to watch... the higher you went, the better the manners. My "bosses" valued honesty, sincerity, fearlessness & trust.

In Palo Alto, it's the higher-ups which are feared... these folks target and exploit honest, sincere, fearlessness & trusting folks.

Never thought of it this way until I read your thread M.

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Unread postby Kingcoal » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 11:21:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Polemic', 'T')his looks like a good place to drag out the old Ruins of Detroit page again.
nice pictures. but the site could can the racist monologue.

This is really how america's decline played out, starting circa 1950.

1) Old city infrastructure wears out. Tax-base don't have the balls or vision to repair it.
2) Tax-base builds first generation suburban sh#tholes in virgin farmland around old cities. (that land is no longer needed--post-war agriculture moves to California Central Valley)
3) abandoned cities deteriorate further.
4) poor people from America's colonies (the South, Puerto Rico, Phillipines etc.) move into city. Better life there than their current sh#tholes
5) Tax-base turns back on past and future.

It took generations for that once-beautiful steel and stone railroad station to deteriorate. Come peak oil, our suburban nightmare will crumble overnight. Ayoob you are a brave man. You will save a lot of beautiful lives. Is your job anything like that portrayed in "Broken Vessels?"


I don't think you are correct. The cities filled up with poor people mostly from within the US. I worked in downtown Philly for several years and I saw both the State of PA and the Federal government dump $billions and I do mean $billions into local housing programs with no apparent benefit. I saw gentrification of blighted areas that simply went back to being blighted. Those areas that attracted an employed demographic got better, the rest became destroyed - as if those who lived there liked it that way.

Get rid of assistance programs and you'll see the cities turn around. The problem is that the government has created a lifestyle where you can be a drug addict or whatever and remain alive. The government is these people's enabler. Drug addicts stream into these destroyed areas because they can be left alone to do what they want to do. Government assistance allows people to remain in nonproductive, destructive patterns and still stay alive. These people need to led to the wall to read the writing - GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER OR DIE!!!!
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Unread postby pea-jay » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 12:13:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'I') don't think you are correct. The cities filled up with poor people mostly from within the US. I worked in downtown Philly for several years and I saw both the State of PA and the Federal government dump $billions and I do mean $billions into local housing programs with no apparent benefit. I saw gentrification of blighted areas that simply went back to being blighted. Those areas that attracted an employed demographic got better, the rest became destroyed - as if those who lived there liked it that way.

Get rid of assistance programs and you'll see the cities turn around. The problem is that the government has created a lifestyle where you can be a drug addict or whatever and remain alive. The government is these people's enabler. Drug addicts stream into these destroyed areas because they can be left alone to do what they want to do. Government assistance allows people to remain in nonproductive, destructive patterns and still stay alive. These people need to led to the wall to read the writing - GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER OR DIE!!!!


UMM, no.

Certain cities died, others muddled through and many thrived with the same federal assistance programs in place the entire time. So the blame government/blame the poor hypothesis holds no water. Cities thrive or die based on their economic opportunity. Period. Places with ample employment survive and even grow. These places have government assistance programs, some quite generous along with public housing (assistance or outright structures) yet dont have the utter decay and blight seen in detroit or philly. Places that dont or cant replace their reason for being die. Its been that way ever since humans started living in cities. Simple as that.

You want to blame someone? blame corporations for leaving. blame politicians/government for changing the "rules" through changing trade rules to allow chinese that get pennies an hour to do the work once done at living wages and finally blame an economic system that rewards growth at all costs, regardless of the environmental or social destruction it causes to the communities it touches.
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Unread postby JustinFrankl » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 12:53:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayoob', 'I')f you do not live in the hood or work in the hood, then please do not post to this thread. Your opinions are worthless in the context of discussing personal experiences.
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They can teach you something if you listen. The whole world can be your school and you can look anything up in the textbook that you want, and can read as many hours over and above the normal nursing student workload as you can put together.
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Where are we, the Congo? You would not see anyone in a normal American part of the country somebody riding a bicycle and balancing anything other than a helmet on top of their heads. It is not civilized behavior to do this. We do not live in a third world country. Totally unacceptable, and should be ridiculed thoroughly.
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It is like walking hand in hand with Christ every single day here. You have no idea how bad it can get in the hood. The amazing stupidity and fuckheadedness you find here will make you lust to be around your own people so hard...

I have worked in the hood, so I guess I have the [s]right[/s] privelege to post in this thread.

Wow. That's some powerful ignorance I hear, when you close yourself off to insight just because someone hasn't had the same experiences as you, but then you turn around and admit that if you can just listen, you might learn something.

And the criticisms you level against the vendors in the garbage, and the people carrying bags on their heads ... do you have any idea what you're talking about when you say the US isn't a third world country? The aftermath of Rita and Katrina. Widespread government propaganda and censorship through all media outlets. Election of government contractors to the highest levels of office. Loss of guaranteed freedoms. Oh, and then there are also people selling food in garbage maelstroms and people carrying things on their heads. Sounds kinda third world to me.

What's more, is do you have any idea how difficult it is to pull yourself out of poverty? Do you realize that the capitalist system is geared toward exploitation of the poor and reinforcement of their conditions? That these people don't have options? That for every person who makes it out, there are hundreds who don't?

I know it's a bitch to work in that area. But I don't actually think less of the people who live there. You are criticising something you don't understand.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby holmes » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 14:13:21

Umm Government social welfare shitstem IS keeping these people alive! What planet are you on? You obviously do not live side by side with these people. I do! They ARE kept alive by the gubmint and tax exempt organizations that are kept alive by the government welfare shitstem. The illogical belief that these poor people are just trying to make ends meet and do the right thing is a long dead hypothesis. Human nature takes the easy way out. especially when your a low IQ and bad genetics and raised with zero adult parents. Children breeding children basically. Most of the cities (within city limits are filled with dependent humans). dependent on drugs, welfare gubmint money. and they are promoted to breed. Do you know the five welfare hand outs these people get? You probably dont even know what and just how much is given to humans that need to stripped of everyhting and sent packing. your neo liberal welfare shitstem is an absolute FAILURE! the people and buerocracy that supports it are failures as well. Thieves and liars. screw the poor. They eat better than me! They get 5 different handouts. Cars. Every child born get more money for each one. Eat me with your blame the poor and downtrodden spheal. They are just as much to blame as the greedy slime that promote it all and make profits off human biomass overload and sub 100 IQs. Your so old and out of touch with reality. Its a time bomb when the energy gets really scarce. You know they are oil produced as well. Cheap oil is their only way. Thay produce zero for society and their crimes support the bloated police gulag, insurance gestapo and corporations you bleeding hearts always rant about. Thay are a huge part of the spine of the consumer society we are in. Thay use massive amounts of plastics and have very little environmental care. In fact they dont give a shit about anything except getting handouts. To think these are noble poor people beign produced today is a fantasy land belief. its 2007.
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Re: Life in the Hood

Unread postby Schneider » Thu 04 Jan 2007, 17:26:31

Not wanting to hijack this topic with ideas that i got here about relocating in ruins,i have created another one in the "Planning For The Future" for this purpose :

Some Thoughts about Ruins..

Sorry for the disturbance :oops: !

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