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Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby Stratovarius » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 13:03:59

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The bird seems to be smarter than your average adult now-a-days. :roll:
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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby Falconoffury » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 10:25:34

I would hire him.
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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby mekrob » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 11:41:37

How is he only "one of the most advanced users of human language in the animal world"? Are there any other parrots or other animals that even come close?

Why is it that only parrots are able to speak? Are other animals just unable (not intelligent enough) or does it have to do with a lack of vocal cords? If we inserted vocal cords on other animals such as dolphins or hawks, wouldn't they have a good chance of being able to speak?
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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby gego » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 12:28:57

Interesting. Now I understand how someone with brain power like George Bush can give speeches.
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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby PrairieMule » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 12:36:25

If you give a man a fish you will have kept him from hunger for a day. If you teach a man to fish he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby Kingcoal » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 13:58:55

Maybe he can sit on W's shoulder and talk for him.
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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 16:03:29

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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby threadbear » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 16:45:56

One of the funniest stories I think I've ever read was about parrot speech that took place at a parrot rescue operation. The birds had all been previously owned by people who didn't realize they're too smart to be a pet, in the traditional sense. They're not domesticated, and the best you can hope for is taming them. Unlike dogs or cats, birds have egos as big as all outdoors and don't take kindly to any kind of disrespect.

The author of the article visited this sanctuary and related how the birds would scream "hi, how are you" when she came through the door, but when she moved closer to their cages, they'd sidle up to her and whisper, "fuck off"! You can surmise that they were imitating their prior owner, who thought they could get away with swearing at their bird, if they moved close to the cage and whispered.

I looked after an African Gray parrot, of a friend, who only imitated swearing and anything that was said with passion. They have a boat and the close quarters enabled the bird to hear them making out. He would do a medley of "alright, that's great. Oh Baby. Then the obligatory panting and sighing, followed by a satisfied series of grunts, followed by a low whistle. :lol:

African Greys are the best talkers and imitators. The interesting thing about their ability to imitate, is, they seem not to use their talents for mimicry, in the wild. Their wide range of sounds, and ability to manipulate their throats, is understood to be mainly for communication within their own species. They likely have language and use it with each other. Nature wouldn't devote a large part of the brain to this feature and not have a use for it. The reason they talk and imitate humans, in captivity, is based on their strong desire to communicate with their own species. If they're not socialized with other birds at a critical juncture f their young lives, they identify with people, not birds.

It's also been revealed through work with grey parrots that if they have a strong attachment to their owner, the owner can be reading a magazine or picture book in another room, and the parrot can do a running commentary about the pictures she's looking at, without seeing the pics himself.

I agree with the poster that other animals likely convey a heck of a lot of detailed information, that sounds like gibberish, and mere random noise to us. Parrots may not actually be unique in their ability to communicate their thoughts. It may only be their desire, as pets, to communicate with us, and their ability to imitate our form of speech that separates them from other animals.

The study of animal communication, through the study of parrots will do much more than illuminate how intelligent animals are. It will help us understand the realm of psychic communication, therefore, give us a little more insight into ourselves.
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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby katkinkate » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 17:54:43

Some of the apes (mostly chimps and gorillas) have been taught to communicate and hold conversations in sign language.

And I've heard of an orca (killer whale) that likes to 'read' picture books. S/he presses a button to let someone know when they are ready for a page to be turned.
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Re: Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

Unread postby Laughs_Last » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 15:49:11

My parrot is a better speller than half the forum users:
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