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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby Aaron » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 17:46:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('J-Rod', 'H')ow much RAM do you have? I'd do like 5 gig for XP, 5 gig for root, your swap should equal your RAM size, use what's left for /home. You could pare down the XP and Root of course, but I always leave a little leeway for stuffin the future you didn't think about.

Laptop has 256MB of RAM, which, as I mentioned earlier, I can't afford to upgrade at the moment.

Aaron, I mostly just use Illustrator to touch up maps I make in ArcGIS. I've never tried using GIMP for that application---it might work just fine. I already own a permanent license for Illustrator, so I guess I can always fire it up on the rare occasion I need it. I just got a wild hair the last couple days about switching to open-source software whenever possible.


I'm sure Gimp will abide...
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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby J-Rod » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 11:03:16

So what's the big deal? 256 should run you fine... just make the swap 256mb then.
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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby Loki » Sun 31 Dec 2006, 04:15:44

Well I finally installed Ubuntu on my laptop. Major pain in the ass, but I think that could be due to my crappy CD drive. I didn't bother to partition my HD, so I only have Linux. My main problem now is that I can't connect to the internet. I have a wireless adapter (Linkskey LKW-G750 IEEE 802.11g). I got ndiswrapper installed and the driver for my adapter, but I don't know where to go from here.
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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby Loki » Mon 01 Jan 2007, 21:26:27

Been messing around with Ubuntu the last couple days and I like it well enough to keep. But still can't get online---no response to my query at the Ubuntu forum. A LOT of people seem to have a hard time getting wireless devices to work with Linux. I've tried everything I can think of with no luck. My options now are to reload Windows or buy another wireless adapter and hope it works with Ubuntu. Right now I'm leaning towards the former. Any ideas?
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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby J-Rod » Tue 02 Jan 2007, 10:48:12

Which flavor did you install? Edgy? I'll be honest, I didn't get my initial adapter working, but I have access to wireless cards galore from my former job with TWC. I tried one that had native support. Everyone else seems to be using workarounds like ndiswrapper. Go to ubuntu forums and search for a tutorial on ndiswrapper, I think it might even be in the wiki. Essentially it lets you use the windows drivers for your card in linux.
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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby peaker_2005 » Tue 02 Jan 2007, 15:16:03

I WAS going to try Ubuntu but the partitioner in the installer refused to work.

Does anybody know if partitioning with windows first will work?
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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby chris-h » Tue 02 Jan 2007, 15:35:46

I use Linux for the past 6 months.(exclusively no dual boot)

I tested Ubuntu,Kubuntu,Fedora core 6 and 5 , Simply Mephis, and PCLINUXOS

At the end I liked PCLINUXOS the best because it recognised everything and is definetly the most user friendly (i do not mind the silly name)

At close second is Kubuntu

PCLINUXOS is definetly more userfriendly than windows XP.


Try both http://www.pclinuxos.com/news.php
and http://www.kubuntu.org/
as live CD and install the one you like the best.


edit also read this
http://www.seopher.com/articles/pclinux ... 0dee618032
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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby chris-h » Tue 02 Jan 2007, 15:40:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peaker_2005', 'I') WAS going to try Ubuntu but the partitioner in the installer refused to work.

Does anybody know if partitioning with windows first will work?



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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby Loki » Tue 02 Jan 2007, 17:38:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('J-Rod', 'W')hich flavor did you install? Edgy? I'll be honest, I didn't get my initial adapter working, but I have access to wireless cards galore from my former job with TWC. I tried one that had native support. Everyone else seems to be using workarounds like ndiswrapper. Go to ubuntu forums and search for a tutorial on ndiswrapper, I think it might even be in the wiki. Essentially it lets you use the windows drivers for your card in linux.

I installed Edgy. I have been using ndiswrapper--it shows the driver and hardware present, but no wlan0 interface. I've looked at just about every ndiswrapper tutorial I could find, with no luck. Seems some wireless adapters just don't work, and I don't have access to any others to try out.

chris-h, I'll look at those other distros. I tried to install openSUSE, but the image I burned ended up being corrupt, and it took so damn long to download that I can't be bothered to try again.
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Re: Switching to Linux and other open source programs?

Unread postby rostov » Thu 18 Jan 2007, 05:54:54

Hi Loki,

Apologies. Been away from internet infrastructure for the past 3 weeks.

Wireless for linux is a major frontier/PITA. The most common practice is to look for cards that are supported by linux. Despite the latest NDIS wrapper efforts, some cards just still don't plain work. Worse, some cards can seem to be compatible, but are merely badly labelled when in fact they contain chipsets that are not supported.

Netgear MA401, Cisco 350 cards have been quite supported so far. Anyway, there's basically two methods you could use : (1) If you have access to the kernel you're using, compile (make menuconfig) and go to the network sections to see what's natively supported, compile it's modules, and load up on startup (2) find cards that have vendor download drivers to be used with your kernel major level, or better yet source code.
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