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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 15:19:38

Big pharma does things like sell anti-inflammatory drugs that will eventually destroy your gastrointestinal tract. They do absolutely work for joint and muscle inflammation, though. The side effects have been underreported, in the interests of higher profits. If you take the non steroidal anti inflammatories you will have less pain in your back, but likely end up with excruciating pains in your gut,(if you take them for the long term).

I refer to big pharma as "ballistic medicine", because it targets a very tiny area, and zeroes in for a kill shot, and there's often collateral damage, in the form of side effects.

"Holistic" medicine, has a more total and subtle whole body approach, so if a remedy works, it's not as likely to have negative side effects. Also the accent on prevention, is a great leap forward. The negatives associated with health food remedies should more accurately be called neutral in effect, often they just don't really work, or there is confusion about attribution if a person does feel a bit better after they take them, or they work, but on the level of a placebo.

If a person can simply tap into the power of placebo, which by the way, is little understood phenomenon, they have a great advantage, health wise. Placebo has to do with belief and is as much metaphysical as purely psychological. The nature of belief and it's affects will be a serious study, in the future, with great ramifications for the medical world.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Falconoffury » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 15:34:19

I didn't have any noticable bowel problems before the cleanse, and my rubber rope was a lot smaller than those in the pictures. The largest was only about 6-8 inches long. Still, I'm not exaggerating about the smell or the rubbery nature of it. I also am not exaggerating that I saw very dark and hard marbles pass through. The worms were probably mostly roundworms. They were an inch long at the longest, and I only saw one nest with about 5 of them total. I don't see how unbelievable my claims are. Roundworms and candida are well known residents of the intestinal tract.

The best result I had from the cleanse was the better nights of sleep I had and the extra energy I had during the day.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Skye » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 16:23:15

It's just denial...they don't want to believe that they could possibly have that kind of vile stuff trapped in them, haha
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby MD » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 17:02:12

best quotes fropm this thread:


"I guess if you want to start a movement, your bowels are a great place to start!'-threadbear

'It takes a real asshole...."-carlhole.

I had my first colonoscopy just over a year ago. Drank two gallons of water with the suggested liquid cleanse. Twice used the little bottles of enema prior to that.

I was cleaned out man. The last gallon of flush went through me in about an hour. It was almost clear water.

The doc commented on hoe clean I was. There wa snothing nasty piled up inside.

I did feel very good immediately after. Oddly refreshed. The effect lasted for a couple weeks. Bowels behaved beautifully.

As always, it's a balance thing. If you are healthy, the occasional fast and flush is a good thing.
Stop filling dumpsters, as much as you possibly can, and everything will get better.

Just think it through.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby cynicalheretic » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 17:33:23

Well I will agree with the first one on the list. The rest are kind of sad
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Carlhole » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 17:37:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Skye', 'I')t's just denial...they don't want to believe that they could possibly have that kind of vile stuff trapped in them, haha


Someone has yet to explain why all that vile stuff is invisible to a colonoscopy procedure.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby oowolf » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 17:59:39

As a person who regularly drinks unfiltered creek water I'm very familiar with Wormwood and Black Walnut hull parasite treatment:

http://curezone.com/diseases/parasites/ ... leanse.asp

(warning. gross images)
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Carlhole » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 18:17:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('oowolf', 'A')s a person who regularly drinks unfiltered creek water I'm very familiar with Wormwood and Black Walnut hull parasite treatment:

http://curezone.com/diseases/parasites/ ... leanse.asp

(warning. gross images)


Yes, Black Walnut and Wormwood...

When you Google that you get Dr. Hulda Clark... The famous doctor that "found the cure for cancer, HIV, AIDS and many other illnesses like tumours and venereal diseases". (tee, hee hee!)

Her anti-parasite recipe using Black Walnut, Wormwood and Cloves can be found at this page:

Dr. Hulda Clark's Website

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dr. Hulda Clark', ' ')DR. CLARK'S DISCOVERIES AND INVENTIONS

Devices

The SYNCROMETER is a device that scans the body for parasites, bacteria, viruses, toxins etc

The ZAPPER is a device that eliminates parasites, bacteria, viruses, etc


Zapper:

A device that generates positive offset frequencies, square-wave, battery-operated. It kills all bacteria, viruses and parasites simultaneously, given sufficient voltage (5 to 10 volts), duration (seven minutes) and frequency (anything from 10 Hz to 500,000Hz)

For a detailed description see: The zapper under Devices & techniques

Syncrometer:

An electronic circuit that scans the body for parasites, viruses, bacteria, toxins, etc. For a detailed description see Syncrometer under Devices & techniques

The food ZAPPICATOR, SONICATOR and OZONATOR are devices that can be used to sterilize and clean your food and water.

Zappicator:

The food zappicator sterilizes and clears your food and water from parasite eggs, bacteria, viruses, etc. It also north polarizes food and water.

For a detailed description see Zappicator under Devices & techniques

Sonicator:

Ultrasonic cleaner to sterilize food.

For a detailed description see Sonicator under Devices & techniques

Ozonator:

A device with sanitizing and oxidizing effect. You can use ozonated oil, water or ozonate your food.

Cleanses

Parasite Cleanse:

Includes black walnut tincture, wormwood capsules and cloves capsules

These three ingredients eliminate many parasites


Kidney Cleanse:

7 ingredients that strengthen and clean the kidney

Liver Cleanse:

Should be done after the parasite and kidney cleanses. Is the most powerful cleanse.

Bowel Cleanse:

This cleanse eliminates a great deal of bad bowel bacteria such as shigella, salmonella, e. coli, etc.

It eliminates flatulences and swollen abdomen.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby BlisteredWhippet » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 18:26:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Skye', 'I')t's just denial...they don't want to believe that they could possibly have that kind of vile stuff trapped in them, haha


Someone has yet to explain why all that vile stuff is invisible to a colonoscopy procedure.


Because the probe doesn't extend beyond the colon? I'm no expert but I don't think they probe into the transverse large intestine from the colon. Two: fungal rope and/or worms aren't a medical condition that usually prompts surgery since oral preparations are available.

I do share some of your suspicions on cleansing. For example, the liver and kidney are organs that are built to self-clean. Some MDs say that a simple juice fast is enough to cleanse the liver and kidney and get the same bouyancy effect. And the digestive system cleans with proper diet, plenty of fiber, clean water, and exercise.

But if you lived the typical American gastrointestinal lifestyle for the last 20 years or your whole life, all bets are off and the task of roto-rooting your own body, regardless of efficacy or method, is probably a step in the right direction if you're limiting yourself to natural, proven ingredients.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby smiley » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 18:36:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is contradictory. First you say that a lot of natural medicines work, then you say that it is no better than people who sold mercury as medicine. Perhaps you weren't referring to the results, but the fact that people didn't understand medicine that well 100+ years ago. I don't know, I just think it's a confusing paragraph.


I wrote it down in a hurry, so I can understand your confusion. What I meant was the following.

There are a lot of natural cures that work, and I use them. Dandelion for instance works great against insect bites. Celandine is a very effective cure against warts. Cloves can be used against a cold (mix it with whiskey and hot water). If you have a cold, put a peeled onion next to your pillow, the fumes will keep your nose clear during the night.

Many of these things work as good as anything you buy from a shop, and yes they are absolutely free.

It is not that I don't trust anything which is not hatched from a test tube. However I do have a problem with people that hide between websites without a postal address, who make all kinds of outrageous claims without medical evidence to back these claims up, who market their products as herbal Thea's etc, to avoid having to compel to the FDA rules for drugs, etc.

All of that wouldn't be a problem if their stuff was harmless. No cure no pain. But they use pretty potent substances and even though they are natural they can cause serious harm.

We had a row here about a herbal tea against colic in infants. The producer accidentally used Japanese star anise instead of Chinese star anise:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')apanese star anise (Illicium anisatum), a similar tree, is not edible because it is highly toxic; instead, it has been burned as incense in Japan. Cases of illness, including "serious neurological effects, such as seizures", reported after using star anise tea may be a result of using this species. Japanese star anise contains anisatin, which causes severe inflammation of the kidneys, urinary tract and digestive organs.


Nice stuff to give to your kids. :cry:


The FDA website. It is littered with warnings on products available on the internet.

Many of these people have no idea about what they are doing, have less understanding of the human body than a surgeon 100 years back. Some of them may be of good intentions, others only in making a quick buck. In any way you can be assured that they are in no way liable for the ill effects of their potions.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Carlhole » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 18:54:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Skye', 'I')t's just denial...they don't want to believe that they could possibly have that kind of vile stuff trapped in them, haha


Someone has yet to explain why all that vile stuff is invisible to a colonoscopy procedure.


Because the probe doesn't extend beyond the colon? I'm no expert but I don't think they probe into the transverse large intestine from the colon. Two: fungal rope and/or worms aren't a medical condition that usually prompts surgery since oral preparations are available.


Yes, they do. A colonoscopy typically goes all the way to the ileocecal junction with the small intestine. To get an endoscope into the small intestine, they have to come through the other (upper) end.

When a doctor wants to do a colonoscopy, he/she is usually very serios about having the patient follow directions explicitly for removing ALL fecal material so that the tissue may be seen.

They give you a gallon of solution to drink that absolutely cleans everything loose out of the intestines. And this is imporatant because a physician wants to check for lesions or colitis or diverticulitis and mst be able to see very clearly.

You idiots are talking about some kind of Satan Poop that not only goes wantonly ignored by the medical profession every time they do a colonoscopy but would make a colonoscopy virtually impossible to perform if such a phenomenon existed.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby holmes » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 20:22:38

eat a raw diet. all one needs really. 2 weeks of detox occurs however. Cleanses you big time. Purchase the Rawsome! book.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby cynicalheretic » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 20:39:34

Just drink a quart of motor oil, that will take care of you ;)
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 21:07:10

Someone mentioned that people are frequently infested with roundworms. Yes, but in what part of the world? Certainly not in North America, unless you prepare breakfast in a kitty litter box.

Carhole--Dr Hulda appears to have won her medical diploma in a kind of raffle. If you take her cures and feel better, great! If you feel no differrent, that's also great, because it takes a little while to work and you really should sign up for the 6 month cure, and follow it faithfully. If you feel completely lousy, why, that's the effect of all of the toxins clearing your body. I haven't read all of her literature, but am familiar with snake oil schemes and understand the general dynamic. There usually pretty harmless, unless you consider hemhorraging money, dangerous to your well being.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby threadbear » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 21:08:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'e')at a raw diet. all one needs really. 2 weeks of detox occurs however. Cleanses you big time. Purchase the Rawsome! book.


Really? Raw leafy food is full of alkaloids, actually difficult to digest.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby max_power29 » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 07:11:02

Eat a couple of packages of sugar free candy all at once. You will experience the biggest colon cleansing of your life!

Its cheap and easy.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby Doly » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 08:12:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('max_power29', 'E')at a couple of packages of sugar free candy all at once. You will experience the biggest colon cleansing of your life!

Its cheap and easy.


Also guaranteed to muck about the bacteria in your gut for good.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby BlisteredWhippet » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 21:51:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '
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They give you a gallon of solution to drink that absolutely cleans everything loose out of the intestines. And this is imporatant because a physician wants to check for lesions or colitis or diverticulitis and mst be able to see very clearly.

You idiots are talking about some kind of Satan Poop that not only goes wantonly ignored by the medical profession every time they do a colonoscopy but would make a colonoscopy virtually impossible to perform if such a phenomenon existed.


Well, what is this doctor-approved formula?

And what exactly is the explanation for the poop-flail? What IS it?
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby emailking » Fri 29 Dec 2006, 23:53:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('BlisteredWhippet', '
')And what exactly is the explanation for the poop-flail? What IS it?


Depending on the picture you're looking at, the claim appears to be that it could be impacted crap, highly overgrown candida yeast, or worms.
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Re: poop is trapped in people

Postby BlisteredWhippet » Sat 30 Dec 2006, 02:48:41

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