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Rickover's 1957 speech foretold all that is happening now

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Re: Rickover's 1957 speech foretold all that is happening no

Unread postby jupiters_release » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 03:13:17

Why does everyone keep referring to 2030! Does anyone disagree production is declining now? Cornucopian hypotheticals are getting really old here.
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Re: Rickover's 1957 speech foretold all that is happening no

Unread postby Zardoz » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 03:37:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'W')hy does everyone keep referring to 2030! Does anyone disagree production is declining now? Cornucopian hypotheticals are getting really old here.

We'll still be pulling vast quantities of oil out of the ground for decades. We're still at 85,000,000 42-gallon barrels a day, for God's sake. The Peak, which we may or may not be on right now, is only the halfway point, isn't it?

By 2030, production will be only a small fraction of what it is now, and life for all us K-Mart shoppers will be nothing like it is now. After that, however, things will start getting bad, indeed, as production continues to dwindle toward zero.
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Re: Rickover's 1957 speech foretold all that is happening no

Unread postby JustinFrankl » Thu 28 Dec 2006, 12:54:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiters_release', 'W')hy does everyone keep referring to 2030! Does anyone disagree production is declining now? Cornucopian hypotheticals are getting really old here.

We'll still be pulling vast quantities of oil out of the ground for decades. We're still at 85,000,000 42-gallon barrels a day, for God's sake. The Peak, which we may or may not be on right now, is only the halfway point, isn't it?

We won't be pulling vast quantities out for decades, if production is interrupted by:
* systemic cascade failure and die-off
* nuclear war and die-off
* rapid-onset climate change and die-off

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')y 2030, production will be only a small fraction of what it is now, and life for all us K-Mart shoppers will be nothing like it is now. After that, however, things will start getting bad, indeed, as production continues to dwindle toward zero.

Life will get very bad within 10 years if we are peaking now. We won't have to wait until 2030.
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