[kokoda]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kokoda', 'D')on't be fooled by dukey's nonsense, or those images of aircraft that have belly flopped into mountains or have crash landed and burned up. The crash into the pentagon was entirely different. It involved an aircraft accelerating hard and hitting a solid, almost immobile wall head on.

There no gradual disipation of energy ... it was the sudden release of massive amounts of energy.

This is as close as you will get to an open and shut case.

[Armageddon]

an aluminum plane penetrating 6 walls of reinforced steel and concrete. That is one heck of a plane. With this type of reasoning, the 2 planes that hit the twin towers should have flown right through and came out the backside. LOL

[dukey]

a plane fitted in this hole ?
then smashed through anoter 5 walls of steel reinforced concrete and god knows how many pillars and other objects ..







and came out here ?


craziest damn story i ever heard.

This guy clearly hasn't a clue either.
http://www.teamlaw.org/Flash/9-11Genera ... ntagon.wmv

Have a good look at this. Nice high res photo
http://www.teamlaw.org/images/Penthitista.jpg
http://www.teamlaw.org/images/Penthitista1.jpg

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'a')n aluminum plane penetrating 6 walls of reinforced steel and concrete. That is one heck of a plane. With this type of reasoning, the 2 planes that hit the twin towers should have flown right through and came out the backside. LOL

[Armageddon]

God gave me 2 eyes . You dont need to be a physicists to see it is impossible for an aluminum plane to travel through 6 layers of steel and reinforced concrete. Look at Dukey's pictures above.

[kokoda]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'a')n aluminum plane penetrating 6 walls of reinforced steel and concrete. That is one heck of a plane. With this type of reasoning, the 2 planes that hit the twin towers should have flown right through and came out the backside. LOL

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'G')od gave me 2 eyes . You dont need to be a physicists to see it is impossible for an aluminum plane to travel through 6 layers of steel and reinforced concrete. Look at Dukey's pictures above.

[kokoda]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'G')od gave me 2 eyes . You dont need to be a physicists to see it is impossible for an aluminum plane to travel through 6 layers of steel and reinforced concrete. Look at Dukey's pictures above.

[Armageddon]

It would definitely explode, but it would not continue forward for that long penetrating 6 rings of reinforced steel and concrete and break a hole in the other side. Impossible by an aluminum airliner having kerosene fuel. Also, if you look at Dukey's pictures, the plane doesn't fit the hole it was allegedly supposed to have went through. The engines themselves would have knocked a huge hole where they entered, but the hole is smaller than width of the outline of the engines.

[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kokoda', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'G')od gave me 2 eyes . You dont need to be a physicists to see it is impossible for an aluminum plane to travel through 6 layers of steel and reinforced concrete. Look at Dukey's pictures above.

[kokoda]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'I')t would definitely explode, but it would not continue forward for that long penetrating 6 rings of reinforced steel and concrete and break a hole in the other side. Impossible by an aluminum airliner having kerosene fuel. Also, if you look at Dukey's pictures, the plane doesn't fit the hole it was allegedly supposed to have went through. The engines themselves would have knocked a huge hole where they entered, but the hole is smaller than width of the outline of the engines.

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'I')t would definitely explode, but it would not continue forward for that long penetrating 6 rings of reinforced steel and concrete and break a hole in the other side. Impossible by an aluminum airliner having kerosene fuel. Also, if you look at Dukey's pictures, the plane doesn't fit the hole it was allegedly supposed to have went through. The engines themselves would have knocked a huge hole where they entered, but the hole is smaller than width of the outline of the engines.

[Armageddon]

By your logic, the entire building would have to have been blown up for it to reach the 6th ring. There is a HUGE difference between exploding and traveling through 6 rings of steel and reinforced concrete.

[kokoda]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('kokoda', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'G')od gave me 2 eyes . You dont need to be a physicists to see it is impossible for an aluminum plane to travel through 6 layers of steel and reinforced concrete. Look at Dukey's pictures above.

[Lighthouse]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', '.').. There is a HUGE difference between exploding and traveling through 6 rings of steel and reinforced concrete.

[Armageddon]

I am still waiting for you to show me how the engines made it through the entry wall without damaging it since the hole was smaller than the outline of the engines. You guys cant use common sense at all. You have all these ways to prove absolutely nothing.

[kokoda]

Sigh ... did nothing sink in?

OK some magic pixies sprinkled pixie dust on the plane and made the engines magically disappear just before the plane hit the pentagon.

[Lighthouse]

I'm doing some calculations, which, I have to admit, do not make much sense at the moment.

Based on the video sequence of the object hitting the pentagon and a published speed of around 600 miles/hour = 10 miles/minute = 1 mile or 5280 feet every 6 seconds = 880 feet/sec.

Video Equipment operates usually with 30 interlaced frames per second. I ASSUME that this camera worked that way. My calculations are based on that ASSUMPTION.

Lets say the plane flew with a speed of 880 feet/sec. Now lets divide this by 1/30th of a second. We should have a complete image of the plane every 29.3 feet. The object on the video is much faster.

It is as a matter of fact to fast for a 757. Max speed is around 570 miles/hour at 12.500 feet altitude. That means - air resistance and engine performance considered - a max. speed in just above ground of 310 mile/hour. Travelling with 600 miles/hour or faster, even after a steep dive, at near ground level would be far out of the specs of a 757.

I'll have to ask my old flight instructor. He is a 737 specialist, but maybe he knows the AA 757 too. I have to come back to you with this.

[GreenMarine]

Answer this simple question why aren't there more videos? No one can deny how simple it would be to counter all this "truth" if the Gov't just showed a few videos.

[kokoda]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukey', '
')This guy clearly hasn't a clue either.