[Kylon]

If someone had a power source that could solve Peak Oil that would be for all purposes be renewable but they didn't want to release it due to the fact that they want-

A) Social Change

B) Lots and lots of money

What would you think of that person?

[Novus]

This is basically the premise behind the book Atlas Shrugged. The book is about a man named John Galt who invents an engine of infinite energy but he decides the world is not worthy of his invention and keeps it secret. TPTB in the book eventually capture and try to torture it out of him but he does not give in because he knows if they kill him the secret of the engine dies with him. It is a very good book and the world discribed in it sounds a lot like post peak America. It is a very long book of about 1200 pages I think and there is a 90 page speach by John Galt explaining why he did what he did.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I')f someone had a power source that could solve Peak Oil that would be for all purposes be renewable but they didn't want to release it due to the fact that they want-

[Revi]

I think I've found it! It is 8 minutes away, a huge fusion reactor that sends out continuous energy to the earth. And it's free! It's just too good to be true! No government can regulate it. You may see it sending free energy into your room right now, if you are on the side of the earth that is receiving it. It provided water at over 100 degrees today to our house, and electricity to recharge my cell phone. A stored version of it was used on my pancakes this morning, and another stored version is keeping our house at around 70 degrees, even though it is below freezing outside. Let me know if you want to utilize this incredible form of energy. I will tell you the secret, for free! Check out my website under www below for how we've used it in our household.

[Novus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I')f someone had a power source that could solve Peak Oil that would be for all purposes be renewable but they didn't want to release it due to the fact that they want-

[Kylon]

For food we could use inflatable rafts combined with extensive seaweed aquaculture.

The grain of the sea could provide a huge supply of food to the populace.

The seaweed, if not nutritious enough, could be genetically modified to produce the necessary nutrients for human sustenance.

In order to take care of our meat problem, we could fertilize the oceans with huge quantities of iron and phosphorous, and all the other compounds necessary for phytoplankton to grow.

That would increase the amount of food on the bottom, allowing the creatures on the top more food, and the capacity to mature/grow faster.

This would also eliminate a huge portion of our global warming problem, if not all of it, and do it more efficiently and cheaply than any other process of CO2 sequestration.

That would provide for meat and our vegetables.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'I') think you put too much emphasis on energy and its' distribution. There is plenty of coal to keep the lights on and plenty of oil at 84 MBPD to keep the world's cars runs running for quite a while yet.

[seldom_seen]

A replacement for oil would speed up our destruction of natural resources, increase pollution and lead to unprecedented overpopulation and a global slum/prison beyond the imaginations of Orwell or Huxley.

I'll take peak oil thank you.

[eastbay]

I agree with Seldom_ Seen. Peak oil is arriving in the nick of time. As it stands now, humans are causing what may be the largest extinction of life forms in 60 million years. In fact, it may be the biggest extinction ever and it's occuring in the blink of an eye, in geologic terms.

Humans are now causing more damage than a massive asteroid collision. Hopefully we'll run out of cheap energy and undertake a population reduction soon thereby alllowing the earth to heal. However, if an effective alternative to oil is discovered or invented all hope is lost.

[smallpoxgirl]

If you meet the Budha on the road, kill him.

[Cobra_Strike]

The best choice in my mind, do not let this new technology come out...it will be abused, badly. The climate would become very unstable, because you know more people would buy SUV's and their ilk if the operation cost were low enough.

[Novus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'I') think you put too much emphasis on energy and its' distribution. There is plenty of coal to keep the lights on and plenty of oil at 84 MBPD to keep the world's cars runs running for quite a while yet.

[MonteQuest]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', ' ')
LoL Monte. Electricity costs $0.09 kwh. I could pay my daily electric bill with the loose change I find on the sidewalk. Try paying your grocery bill with no job lol. A single tomato in the supermarket costs a $1.99. Ironically the bannas which are imported some 4000 miles are only $0.69 each. Oh if this were about energy it would be so simple but it is not so wake up and get your head out of that box already.

This is clasical Malthusianism. Agricultural production has grown geometrically while the human population has grown exponentially and we are now currently in overshoot. If you have not noticed there are 6.5 billion of us now so forget long term because the human race has exceeded the current carrying capacity of the Earth.

[NEOPO]

Monte is correctamundo.

There is one problem and one solution - Us.

If!!! we are capable of harnessing fusion or some other holy grail that has always been 20-50 years in the future then PERHAPS!! we will overcome the largest part of our energy dilemma yet we would still have all of the same issues and a huge massive transition to make.
If we were unable to correct these issues then at some later time we would inevitably find our species in a similar yet far worse situation.

If TPTB already have such technology then it certainly seems that they plan to bust our economic asses and bring about the effects of Peak Oil regardless of an abiotic or silver bullet reality

911 MIHOP = afghanistan + Iraq + tyranny + oil/peak oil = the illusion lasts alittle longer???

Fer what?!!? if they had the silver bullet and truly gave a shit about our economic well being.

in conclusion if they got it then we aint gettin it until they want us to have it which will more then likely be when we are on our knees begging for it so prepare for the worst comrades..........

[PolestaR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'T')his is clasical Malthusianism. Agricultural production has grown geometrically while the human population has grown exponentially and we are now currently in overshoot. If you have not noticed there are 6.5 billion of us now so forget long term because the human race has exceeded the current carrying capacity of the Earth.