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Ghenghis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 24 Nov 2006, 23:15:05

I got the idea for this from the war nerd in one of his articles. Here is the US, full of munitions that can drop all adversaries to their knees, including the Slavs. But the US is a democracy, reluctant to pull out the stops. The world knows this and they are holding their breath. The moment the US says the hell with it it, we are on the warpath, well, let's see what happens. Any city that resists is toast. Nevermind tossing skulls over the ramparts, as Genghis would have done.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby rogerhb » Fri 24 Nov 2006, 23:55:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'A')ny city that resists is toast. Nevermind tossing skulls over the ramparts, as Genghis would have done.


But as we keep on saying here, it's not sustainable.

How long will it keep going following a dollar collapse?
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby KhanCEO » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 02:12:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')Nevermind tossing skulls over the ramparts, as Genghis would have done.


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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby Novus » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 02:46:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'A')ny city that resists is toast. Nevermind tossing skulls over the ramparts, as Genghis would have done.


But as we keep on saying here, it's not sustainable.

How long will it keep going following a dollar collapse?


You never studied history did you. The collapse of the German Mark did stop them from going to war. In fact it did just the oposite. It led to Hitler's absolute rise to power as he convinced the German people to take back what the bankers (Jews) had stolen. If you murder your creditors you don't have to pay them back!

I think the OP is saying America will be defaulting on its debt at the point of a gun.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 04:31:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'Y')ou never studied history did you. The collapse of the German Mark did stop them from going to war. In fact it did just the oposite. It led to Hitler's absolute rise to power as he convinced the German people to take back what the bankers (Jews) had stolen.


Who exactly is America going to steal from to keep the gig going?Germany wasn't in imperial over-reach during the early 1930s. Back then money was related to the gold standard.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby Madpaddy » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 16:17:18

rogerhb wrote,
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ho exactly is America going to steal from to keep the gig going?Germany wasn't in imperial over-reach during the early 1930s. Back then money was related to the gold standard.


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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 17:39:50

the people who run this thing will head to their private island and let the american dollar collapse whenever they are ready. They will keep the printing presses at full steam to the last minute.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 18:00:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '
')Who exactly is America going to steal from to keep the gig going?Germany wasn't in imperial over-reach during the early 1930s. Back then money was related to the gold standard.
Did Ghenghis Khan "steal"? no, he slaughtered everybody in his path. Of course, in this enlightened era, no such thing could happen. But Khan created the global order that allowed Marco Polo to visit China. There were no bandits on the road. The world's greatest empire brought some good with it. It's something to think about, anyway.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 19:21:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'B')ut Khan created the global order that allowed Marco Polo to visit China.


That's global is it?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he world's greatest empire brought some good with it.


You say that as if it is a surprise that an empire might bring some good......

However it's a well know fact that the greatest empire ever was the British Empire. :)

Quarter of the globe was pink, don't yer know.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 19:48:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'B')ut Khan created the global order that allowed Marco Polo to visit China.


That's global is it?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he world's greatest empire brought some good with it.


You say that as if it is a surprise that an empire might bring some good......

However it's a well know fact that the greatest empire ever was the British Empire. :)

Quarter of the globe was pink, don't yer know.
wrong, Rog. The British Empire couldn't hold a candle to Ghenghis Khan's empire. All you have to do is read your history. And of course, it goes without saying that the US Empire is chickenshit because in spite of having weapons that would make Ghenghis drool, we are afraid to use them, for now. . .
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 19:58:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he British Empire couldn't hold a candle to Ghenghis Khan's empire.


Depends what an Empire was for. The British Empire was predominantly about trade, not subjegation.

What all empires have in common is they have a beginning and an end.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 20:08:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he British Empire couldn't hold a candle to Ghenghis Khan's empire.


Depends what an Empire was for. The British Empire was predominantly about trade, not subjegation.

What all empires have in common is they have a beginning and an end.
well it's another thing, pondering the end of empires. No one can tell the future. If the British Empire was about trade, what do you think the American Empire is about? Naturally, the terms of trade favored the hegemons. It's about bringing the goods back home where they are needed. The American hegemony is just a continuation of the British one. It's all about wealth and food, the location of feretilizers for crops, among other things. When you get right down to it, starvation is what motivates actions.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 20:23:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')hen you get right down to it, starvation is what motivates actions.


When you get right down to it, it's people who are the problem.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 20:32:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')hen you get right down to it, starvation is what motivates actions.


When you get right down to it, it's people who are the problem.
I went over to my brother's house for Thanksgiving. He's got an amazing high defintion tv system. I was digging the football games. And I saw the lions on the Discovery Channel. I don't know about you, but lions are disgusting. I wouldn't shed a tear if they went extinct. Tigers are beautiful on the other hand.
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Re: Ghenhis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 20:45:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I') don't know about you, but lions are disgusting. I wouldn't shed a tear if they went extinct. Tigers are beautiful on the other hand.


However it's people who go round saying things should be like X or it would be better if we did Y etc. Basically turning things into big problems.

Without us, then you don't have any big problems, all you have are millions of tiny problems all of the kind "I'm still hungry", just as you mentioned.
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Re: Ghenghis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby Jack » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 20:46:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he moment the US says the hell with it it, we are on the warpath, well, let's see what happens. Any city that resists is toast. Nevermind tossing skulls over the ramparts, as Genghis would have done.


Exactly right. However, we as a nation and a people have suffered a failure of will. I do not expect to see us recapture it.

Look to China. They will not stay their hand as we do. Thus will they win.
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Re: Ghenghis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 20:52:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jack', 'L')ook to China. They will not stay their hand as we do. Thus will they win.


They will win what exactly?

Nobody gets out alive.
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Re: Ghenghis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby Jack » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 20:57:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '
')They will win what exactly?

Nobody gets out alive.


Umm...naming rights for the pile of ashes? 8)
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Re: Ghenghis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby Armageddon » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 23:23:49

when the US empire has to attack, it is the greatest militarty empire the world has ever seen. When the politics and occupation of the conquered land has to take place, it fails miserably.
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Re: Ghenghis Khan Advises the US

Unread postby rogerhb » Sat 25 Nov 2006, 23:37:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'i')t is the greatest militarty empire the world has ever seen.


The military does not operate in a vacuum, it is funded and directed by the politicians. It is a hammer, not every foreign problem is a nail. Not every foreign problem is solveable with the military.

The US military does not understand foreign cultures because the majority of Americans do not understand foreign cultures.

The US Army is not a counter-insurgency or peace-keeping army, it is a big conventional war army, that was historically it's role, that is how it is organized and that is what it trained for.
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