[KhanCEO]

I normally have an open mind and I will willing to hear any crazy story, however crazy it may be, but this is really starting to take the cake of all crazy things. First of all, I sometimes read Foreign Affairs at my local bookstore to see what is being said by some of the big wigs. In a recent article by Foreigns Affairs New Global Slave Trade highlights slave trade, exclaiming that there are more slaves now more than ever, that it is easy to do, and that no one is doing anything about it; they offer no solution to the problem. This slave trade consists of mostly women and children, many of which end up as sex slaves. I wasn't taked by the shock as I know this slave trade does happen, I have read about it in a few other books.

What Everyone Should Know About Who Is Running The World (Good book, no conspiracy theories or crazy stuff, well researched)

I usually visit google.video because there are entertaining videos, plus I like to see what everyone esle is watching. (Gotta know what is being seen)

I see the following:Child Predator Exposed . I think to myself, I'm going to laugh at this video because I like seeing child predators being busted, all good show in my opinion. To my surprise the video warns the viewer that after catching the child predator being an internet child predator (as seen on TV), the police did nothing( Not seen on TV). The video's makers also warned to watch over your kids while they are on the computer.

I remember watching a show on TV that catches internet child predators. The show sets up the would-be predators to arrive at a location loaded with cops near-by to arrest the suspect; thats after an interview with the would-be predator on national television, which is just as entertaining as seeing the dirtbag getting arrest.

After watching the video about warning me to watch over the children I don't have , I noticed another video. Satanism and CIA , The International Trafficking of Children

I thought to myself , this sounds like another crazy piece of crap that has a high likelihood of being crap. However, I consider myself an information Nutcase, I have to hear it even if it sounds like lunacy, I want to make sure that if I come across any other information I can simply cross reference the information or have more information on the subject. ( I hate being wrong)

This was not the first video about child predators and our government there is another one.
Conspiracy of Silence

and another damn video about pedophiles in our government.

Grand Ol' Pedophiles


There is large amount of strange sexual behavior surrounding the white house.

The Ted Haggard scandel

Ted Haggard

Please note that Ted Haggard did meet with President Bush as a religious advisor on a weekly basis. (Source- Jesus Camp Movie)

Guckert in the house.

Male Prostitute In The White House

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rawstory', 'G')uckert made more than 200 appearances at the White House during his two-year tenure with the fledging conservative websites GOPUSA and Talon News, attending 155 of 196 White House press briefings. He had little to no previous journalism experience, previously worked as a male escort, and was refused a congressional press pass.

[threadbear]

Thanks for that. I'm tracking the same info. The child murders in Belgium, a few years back, got me interested. They caught a few of the men and woman involved, but failed to pursue it as a conspiracy of organized pedaphiles. The rot seemed to reach right to the top and Belgians were actually taking to the streets in huge protest marches, in an effort to cleanse their govt. of perverts.

Cover-up of perversion goes hand in hand with the effete elite who have the money time and power to pursue their sickest desires, and spirals downward sweeping up similarly afflicted individuals. It's held in place by the profit motives driving sex slave traders, and other flunkies.

We will learn more about how these people function globally, now that sex slavery has become so prevalent in collapsed societies that used to comprise the Soviet Bloc.

There is a good movie out about sex slavery with donald Sutherland and Mira Sorvino, called HUman Trafficking. I highly recommend it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0461872/

Belgian case, the trial

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid ... =228192004

Particulars of the Belgian case:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/290204_chil ... lgium.html

[PolestaR]

The video here..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 8063&hl=en

So what exactly did he do which was illegal? Is it illegal to send masturbation videos to people? Why don't you lock him up for some precrime reason like "he's a perv".

Too many fools and not enough stools.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Gunderson and the McMartin preschool case This guy is not trustworthy. Complete tin-foil hat wacko. Ted Gunderson also accused Art Bell of being a child molester. Art Bell successfully sued Gunderson for slander.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')990 - GUNDERSON WAS AN ACTIVIST IN THE McMARTIN PRESCHOOL CASE IN LOS ANGELES.

Following is an excerpt of an article by Debbie Nathan who is well known to believe in false memory syndrome and to debunk as incredible, claims by children that they are abused. (See critique of Nathan by Alex Constantine.) Nathan's article does, however, outline the activities of Gunderson in the McMartin case: Source: http://users.cybercity.dk/~bkb1827/McMartin4.htm "Evidence of a Hoax - McMartin Preschool Tunnel Claims by Debbie Nathan © 1990:

"In 1990, Jackie McCauley was living with Ted Gunderson. He is former head of the Los Angeles FBI office. After taking an early retirement in the late 1970s, Gunderson was hired by friends of Jeffrey MacDonald, the Green Beret convicted of brutally murdering his wife and small children. MacDonald's case is detailed in Joe McGiniss' book FATAL VISION. MacDonald always claimed that his family was murdered by a Charles Manson-like cult, and Gunderson located a female street person with a history of severe drug abuse who claimed she had been in the house with the cult when the family was murdered. From this work, Gunderson apparently adopted the idea that the country was overrun with murderous Satanic cults. He elaborated this idea when he was associated with Jackie McCauley and the rest of the McMartin parents.

In the early 1980s, as Gunderson publicized his theories about Satanic cults, he began making bizarre claims to the media. One was that Satanists and the FBI were out to harm him. He once told the LA Times that someone had thrown a crowbar at him as he drove on the freeway. Another time, he said, he was sunbathing in his yard and awoke to find a satanic poem left at his side.

In the late 1980s Gunderson became something of a regular on shows such as Geraldo. In May, 1989, after the Matamoros drug-cult killings, he appeared on Geraldo and claimed that Mason County, Washington was filled with satanist "killing fields" stocked with hundreds of dead bodies. The county went into a panic and parents took their children from school. Extensive investigation revealed no such fields.

McCauley and Gunderson organized the 1990 McMartin dig and hired LA archaeologist Gary Sickel...."

[threadbear]

The satanic abuse stories are very weird indeed. They have a real Brothers Grimm feel to them. Some people go right off the deep end with this stuff because it wakens all the dormant religious archetypes or feeds the ones that are already rampaging around their psyches.

Having said that, seeing as these are such incredibly powerful archetypes, and many people tend to get instantly hysterical and lose all sense of reason when exposed, does it not make sence that you're going to see false positives, like the McMartin pre-school debacle?

Is it not equally likely that any image powerful enough to reduce many people to blithering idiots, on the one side, or provoke remarkably powerful barriers to the idea of ritual abuse, on the other, is a perfect tool for controlling children?

The False Memory Foundation provides a great service for people who have been falsely accused in the witch hunts of the eighties and I feel there must have been many.

But here is another thing to consider. Could they be providing a service to parent, teacher, minister victims who have been unjustly accused , while actually covering for true pedophiles? And if they are doing this, are they conscious of the fact? Do they have a double agenda?

A couple of the founding members of the organization provide tacit approval for child/adult sexual relationships, by writing scholarly papers about the overlooked positive effects of child /adult sex. This seems highly suspicious to me. The same people have a daughter who wrote an autobiography of her parents, outlining the abuse she suffered. as a child. If anyone would like more info, I can do a quick search for it and also double check my facts.

[threadbear]

The founder of False Memory Foundation--

FMSF Founder Ralph Underwager, director of the Institute of Psychological Therapies in Minnesota, was forced to resign in 1993. Underwager (a former Lutheran pastor) and his wife Hollida Wakefield publish a journal, Issues in Child Abuse Allegations, written by and for child abuse "skeptics".

His departure from the False Memory Syndrome Foundation was hastened by a remark in an interview, appearing in an Amsterdam journal for paedophiles, that it was "God’s Will" adults engage in sex with children.

(His wife Hollida remained on the Foundation’s board after he left). As it happens, holy dispensation for paedophiles is the exact credo of the Children of God cult. It was fitting, then, when Underwager filed an affidavit on behalf of cult members tried in France in 1992, insisting that the accused were positively "not guilty of abuse upon children". In the interview, he prevailed upon paedophiles everywhere to shed stigmatisation as "wicked and reprehensible" users of children.

[KhanCEO]

After reading all these posts I have come to the the final thought about what to do when I see crap like this: I already know that the powers that be are evil sons of bitches, there is no need to figure out everything they do, or even how they operate, the fact that they are evil S.O.B.s is enough. I usually don't believe everything i hear or see. It takes many different sources of information.

Works like this

"No doubt in my mind it is True"
"Likely True"
"Possible"
"Likely Not True"
"Impossible"

Peak Oil, ranks "No doubt in my mind it is True"

This child/ pedophile thing, ranks "Possible"

Government did 9/11, ranks "No doubt in my mind it is True"(I still hate Alex Jones and that stupid Loose Change video)

Die-off, ranks "No doubt in my mind it is true"

Aliens have landed on earth, ranks "Likely not true"

America is a free and democratic society, ranks "Impossible"

Holocaust happened as the United States Government said it happen and there is no other version to the story and nothing was made up, ranks "possible"

We have a press that is not controlled and will usually tell us the truth, ranks "Impossible"

The Military can now use weather as a weapon, ranks "Possible"

The CIA is involved in the drug trade, ranks "No doubt in my mind it is true"

J.F.K. died as the government said he died, ranks "Impossible"

Corporations are good for everyone, ranks "Impossible"

[skiwi]

FOLLOW the PAEDOPHILES to find CONSPIRACIES that HURT US ALL

Everything is weirder than most people on a board like this could handle

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skiwi', '[')url=http://www.davidickeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25022]FOLLOW the PAEDOPHILES to find CONSPIRACIES that HURT US ALL[/url]

Everything is weirder than most people on a board like this could handle

[threadbear]

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[PenultimateManStanding]

I'm not seeing any posts from Ickes but stuff like this:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') am thinking it is not so much the police in my area...as the damn courts..

(of course you have to remember that a couple of our judges were caught with drugs..funny how none of them ever went to jail for it huh?)

New Mexico happens to be a favorite place for felons and child molestors to come because the laws here are so lax..
If you are a law abiding citizen they will jail your butt for not having your liscence but if you have a felony..or are and illegal alien you should be fine.

You cannot imagine how many times i hear on the nightly news where some monster has been caught..only to be let out to rape other children here...it is beyond the pale.

And i am pretty damn sure we have some kind of black magicians groups in the area..probably the virulent south american variety..(yes the kind that does child sacrifice)..because i keep hearing news items about grave-robbers who are stealing skulls.
I stopped by the catholic bookstore the other day..and the business was hopping. Out of Idle curiousity i checked their saint card rack...all the ST. Benedict cards were gone....
St. Benedict is one of their most famous exorcists..they ask him for help to protect them from witchcraft...

I am telling you the town i am living in is beggining to scare me.
Lotsa missing pets too.

[Eli]

Ok that link of skiwi's is seriously disturbing.

What they are describing is pure evil, not just bad or criminal evil. If evil does function on that high of a power level I would not be that surprised.

[PenultimateManStanding]

The post at the top of page five is just too much to believe. A 63 year old woman claims she was sold as a ritualistc sacrifice to an Illuminati cult 60 years ago but survived and then was moved to California to work as a sex slave for a bunch of Nazis. John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, Howard Hughes and Richard Feynman were clients she says. Oh, and Dr. Joseph Mengele makes an appearance in this tale as well.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he post at the top of page five is just too much to believe. A 63 year old woman claims she was sold as a ritualistc sacrifice to an Illuminati cult 60 years ago but survived and then was moved to California to work as a sex slave for a bunch of Nazis. John Wayne, Ronald Reagan, Howard Hughes and Richard Feynman were clients she says. Oh, and Dr. Joseph Mengele makes an appearance in this tale as well.

[Eli]

Yeah Pen that one made me chuckle.


The rest of it was just disturbing. But there is plenty of indisputable child and women slavery going on in the world to make on sick. Look at Russia Indonesia and Thailand for examples. No masonic conspiracy needed.

I do however remember that story about Gary Condit from Califorinia and his murdered intern something freaky was going on with that whole deal.

It seems to me this world is over run with things rank and gross in nature.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I') think I know who this woman is and she has likely done more to discredit the topic of CIA mind control programs than anyone else.

[NEOPO]

Its that pesky archetypal thing again isnt it?

[Eli]

Thread Bear I think you are right about the truth being hidden.

The whole McMartin preschool thing was just as much about poor interviewing techniques with kids as anything else.

And their are plenty of examples in academia that say there is no harm in child/adult sex.

There is no doubt however that there is a nebulous cabal of people worldwide who traffic in child sex slavery. Look at the UN sex scandal in Africa as well as a modern example.

And Pen do a wikipedia search on Art Bell
I am not saying Art Bell is a pedophile but take a look at his new Filipino Bride she looks to be about 40 years his junior and he did just move to Manila which does not have any problems with sex trafficking.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'T')hread Bear I think you are right about the truth being hidden.

The whole McMartin preschool thing was just as much about poor interviewing techniques with kids as anything else.

And their are plenty of examples in academia that say there is no harm in child/adult sex.

There is no doubt however that there is a nebulous cabal of people worldwide who traffic in child sex slavery. Look at the UN sex scandal in Africa as well as a modern example.

And Pen do a wikipedia search on Art Bell
I am not saying Art Bell is a pedophile but take a look at his new Filipino Bride she looks to be about 40 years his junior and he did just move to Manila which does not have any problems with sex trafficking.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'I')ts that pesky archetypal thing again isnt it?