[KevO]

The world could be dependent on "dirty, insecure and expensive" energy by 2030, an influential report has warned.
Current trends showed that demand for power was set to grow by 53% by 2030,the International Energy Agency said.

But if governments delivered on their promises to push cleaner and more efficient supplies, demand could be cut by about 10%, the agency suggested.

Greater use of nuclear power could be a "valuable option" to cut imports and curb CO2 emissions, the study added.

hmmm
BBC NEWS

[Temperedoil]

When I read that article, I was once again left with the impression that the IEA refuses to accept the possibility that Peak Oil might have an impact upon their forecasts.

It is noticeable in the graphs that they include in that article that oil is still considered to be a resource of growing supply and increasing importance up to and beyond the year 2030. It may be useful to see how things might look once one has included a scenario where oil has indeed peaked. Will we become more reliant upon coal? Will the lack of fuel for transport, mining, processing lead to a lesser or negative rate of growth for nuclear power? Will the Peak lead to a greater uptake of alternative renewable energy sources? Or will that Peak and its associated consequences mean that alternatives are not able to be developed and produced to a sufficient degree and within a sufficient time period? Will different parts of the world (with different mixes of available energy sources, including renewables) be affected to different degrees, leading to differing degrees of relevance of the forecasts made?

Until the IEA looks into such possibilities in their forecasts, even if only as an alternative to their standard view, it seems to me that the forecasts they do give in such articles as the one linked to in this thread may be somewhat less than reliable.

[KevO]

53% !

by 2030!


and we're going to have our carbon emissons cut by 60% by then!!



now you know that means Nuke and no Iran you can't play.
the west will supply your energy.

Actually...boomshanka! that's it.
The nuclear nations are going to be the new OPEC or NPEC so if you ain't got nuclear you are at the behest of teh 7 that have (or is it 9) - which means NK will become rich as long as it doesn't do anything daft. The middle east will become poor(er) and Iran will not be allowed in the game and does Australia have it's own nuclear power source ow will they have to rely on the US, UK, France and NK?

[BrazilianPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', 'T')he middle east will become poor(er) and Iran will not be allowed in the game and does Australia have it's own nuclear power source ow will they have to rely on the US, UK, France and NK?

[Zardoz]

They got one thing right:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')o meet this demand, the IEA envisaged that the total amount of arable land required would be equivalent to at least the combined size of France and Spain.

But the WEO warned that the growing demand for food would limit the potential of the plant-derived fuel produced using current technologies.

[dday]

Look at this link. It is a Danish county that is producing 100% of it's electrical generation by wind, and is now experimenting with hydrogen production from excess power. They also produce abundant organic crops, their vegtables are renowned, There can be a different energy future, but it must start at the grassroots and not from the top.
http://www.veo.dk/eng/default.htm

[PeakOiler]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dday', 'L')ook at this link. It is a Danish county that is producing 100% of it's electrical generation by wind, and is now experimenting with hydrogen production from excess power. They also have produce abundant organic crops, their vegtables are renowned, There can be a different energy future, but it must start at the grassroots and not from the top.
http://www.veo.dk/eng/default.htm

[dday]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakOiler', '
')Edit: I think the second picture in the photo gallery of the offshore wind turbines, with the golden-red glow of the sunrise?/sunset? on the towers is the best pic.
To see them spinning would be as art in my eyes. Any videos?
How can anyone complain about the turbines' appearance? They're certainly better than cell phone towers...
Fresh wallpaper for my comp...