[MD]

I caught a passing reference yesterday claiming the business of science had reached diminishing returns.

The tone suggested the diminsihing returns were due to the natural approach of the limits of knowledge.

Bullpucky.

Reality is far deeper and wider than anyone can imagine. The limitation is our own.

[grink1tt3n]

"Deeper and Wider Than imaginable"

MD, I thought this was a porn-spam post. :)

Things do appear to be... not good. I worry that it is really hard to keep perspective when reading these peak energy websites.

However, it doesn't help that real-world news seems to be corroborating everything that's being said, albeit with more polish and propaganda.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grink1tt3n', '"')Deeper and Wider Than imaginable"

MD, I thought this was a por*-spam post.

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[NEOPO]

Is that by design or is porn one word we cant say here?
test test porn porn porn

edit: whew... thought we had lost another "word" there for a second

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'I')s that by design or is porn one word we cant say here?
test test porn porn porn

edit: whew... thought we had lost another "word" there for a second

[SDC]

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22doomer+porn%22&btnG=Google+Search

Off topic yet again, sorry.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'T')he tone suggested the diminsihing returns were due to the natural approach of the limits of knowledge.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'T')he tone suggested the diminsihing returns were due to the natural approach of the limits of knowledge.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'A')t some point, our ability to test, theorize, and publish vastly exceeds our ability to do anything particularly useful with the knowledge we acquire.

[SDC]

I'd love to have an opinion on this subject, but I'm not a scientist and I don't know what sort of sources, other than looking at thousands of scientific articles across the last hundred years, I would use.

Could anyone suggest something?

[smiley]

Some fields are becoming depleted as we approach the hard limits of what we are able to see, make or to test. But as we shift our focus others are opening up .

If you for instance look at the progress that is being made in understanding how natural processes work and how to mimic nature, then you understand that there are still many exciting things to be done.

That said it is definitively getting harder to make process. 10 years ago it was possible for a scientist to work in solitude and do challenging work on a limited budget.

That would be unimaginable today. The low hanging fruits have long gone. In order to make progress now you need a team of people working from a multi-million dollar budget. But on the other hand we have more scientists and more budget than ever before.

Perhaps you are right in saying that the returns are lower, in a sense that you need more money to generate a similar return as in the past, but I wouldn't say science itself is stagnating (yet).

[NEOPO]

peak science!!
Bout FN time

Grab pandora's box and shake it!!

"what mankind knows can in no way compare to that which mankind knows not"

Didnt science give us GMO's and hydrocarbon pesti/insecticides and all that jazz? yeah thats what I thought............

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smiley', 'S')ome fields are becoming depleted as we approach the hard limits of what we are able to see, make or to test. But as we shift our focus others are opening up .

If you for instance look at the progress that is being made in understanding how natural processes work and how to mimic nature, then you understand that there are still many exciting things to be done.
........

[smiley]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')ounds strangely familiar....yes, Mike Lynch! That's it!