[Lokutus]

What does American Conservative magazine have to say about the election?

Answer:

November 20, 2006 Issue
The American Conservative

GOP Must Go

There may be little Americans can do to atone for this presidency, which will stain our country’s reputation for a long time. But the process of recovering our good name must begin somewhere, and the logical place is in the voting booth this Nov. 7. If we are fortunate, we can produce a result that is seen—in Washington, in Peoria, and in world capitals from Prague to Kuala Lumpur—as a repudiation of George W. Bush and the war of aggression he launched against Iraq.

http://amconmag.com/2006/2006_11_20/feature.html

[NEOPO]

pigs on the wing indeed

[duke3522]

True conservatives were never for this war. Neocons are nothing more than Wilson liberals dressed up in a different package. And the religious right is about as far away from conservative as you can get. No problem with limitless expansion of government as long as it’s in the name of Jesus.

[peaker_2005]

I'd call myself a fundamentalist Christian (that is, I believe the Word is a foundation).

The hijacking of Christianity by Bush is, IMHO of great concern.

[PenultimateManStanding]

The Pat Buchanan form of Conservatism is bound to grow as long as things stay bad in Iraq. Just one thing though: it's hard to know when the peakoil situation will begin to really heat up. The neoconservatives may have just been used as pointy-headed intellectual window-dressing for what was the true agenda, no doubt discussed in Cheney's notorious closed door energy meeting. If and when it comes out to the general public how dangerous the situation really is, people may reconsider the worth of the US military presence in Iraq. Bush may become a hero. The "damage to the US reputation" of 2006 could easily become irrelevant in 2009.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('peaker_2005', 'I')'d call myself a fundamentalist Christian (that is, I believe the Word is a foundation).

The hijacking of Christianity by Bush is, IMHO of great concern.

[dissimulo]

There is nothing conservative about the current administration.

Republicans, democrats - all just socialists to me. There might be slight differences in the stated ideals of the parties, but the execution is all the same.

[dukey]

I believe the constant lies and the disgusting US foreign policy are just a cover for go to war to get oil, in preparation for peak oil to ensure the survival of the US.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '.')..I have been married to the same women for 25 years...

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I')t depends what meds I'm on. I've always thought of her as a little bit Madonna, a little bit Donnie, a little bit Marie. She's everything to me

[NEOPO]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he Pat Buchanan form of Conservatism is bound to grow as long as things stay bad in Iraq. Just one thing though: it's hard to know when the peakoil situation will begin to really heat up. The neoconservatives may have just been used as pointy-headed intellectual window-dressing for what was the true agenda, no doubt discussed in Cheney's notorious closed door energy meeting. If and when it comes out to the general public how dangerous the situation really is, people may reconsider the worth of the US military presence in Iraq. Bush may become a hero. The "damage to the US reputation" of 2006 could easily become irrelevant in 2009.

[MD]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '.')..
What is this "true agenda" you speak of?
...?

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')he Pat Buchanan form of Conservatism is bound to grow as long as things stay bad in Iraq. Just one thing though: it's hard to know when the peakoil situation will begin to really heat up. The neoconservatives may have just been used as pointy-headed intellectual window-dressing for what was the true agenda, no doubt discussed in Cheney's notorious closed door energy meeting. If and when it comes out to the general public how dangerous the situation really is, people may reconsider the worth of the US military presence in Iraq. Bush may become a hero. The "damage to the US reputation" of 2006 could easily become irrelevant in 2009.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '.')..All I'm saying is they probably sat around and said something like, "will this work?" and came up with something like, "maybe, but either way, we've got our bases there for when the oil crunch hits and the political landscape gets turned upside-down."

[PenultimateManStanding]

The neocons do seem a bit like crusaders. The thing I'm getting at is like this:

Neocons -> Bush/Cheney <- Realists

Realists being people like Baker, Kissinger, Powell, etc, the one's that Bush Sr. listened to. Bush/Cheney are neither, Bush/Cheney are OilMen. Corporate/Business/Energy guys. For all I know, that is the entire reason they are in the White House. TPTB selected them for who they are. TPTB are not the same as intellectuals/geostrategist thinkers. TPTB are the ones with the money. They hire the talent and they back who they want to be president. It's a theory, anyway; that's all anyone else here has.