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Internets to be shut down by ze Fatherland Security?

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 12:37:01

From Wire magazine:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')omeland Security Chief Says the Web is Dangerous: According to Wired, Chertoff is telling the Bushies that the Web allows people to 'learn' to be dissatisfied with the American Way, and then learn how to be terrorists. A perfect example of the blinkered conservative worldview that it's better to shelter people from truths that are not pleasant. And frightening in a guy who has as much power and influence as Chertoff.


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Okay, you tell me just what the hell this is supposed to mean?

Frankly, I'm baffled.

My best guess is that indeed "the Internets" will have to be shut down to protect us from Goldstein...I mean from Osama.*



* Bonus points if you understand the literary reference.
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Re: Internets to be shut down by ze Fatherland Security?

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 12:45:49

Oh, come on! Goldstein? Everybody knows the brotherhood doesn't exist.

Yes, some of us who reference the book have actually *read* it.
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Re: Internets to be shut down by ze Fatherland Security?

Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 12:47:28

That's Wired magazine.

Damn %$#@& typos!
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Re: Internets to be shut down by ze Fatherland Security?

Unread postby MD » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 12:50:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'F')rom Wire magazine:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')omeland Security Chief Says the Web is Dangerous: According to Wired, Chertoff is telling the Bushies that the Web allows people to 'learn' to be dissatisfied with the American Way, and then learn how to be terrorists. A perfect example of the blinkered conservative worldview that it's better to shelter people from truths that are not pleasant. And frightening in a guy who has as much power and influence as Chertoff.


Link

Okay, you tell me just what the hell this is supposed to mean?

Frankly, I'm baffled.

My best guess is that indeed "the Internets" will have to be shut down to protect us from Goldstein...I mean from Osama.*



* Bonus points if you understand the literary reference.


The reference is hovering right out of reach, dammit...no bonus for me.

As for the post itself, there is no putting this genie back in the bottle. If the Chinese can't squelch it, no lame homeland security initiative will work either.
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Unread postby Lokutus » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 12:55:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '
')As for the post itself, there is no putting this genie back in the bottle. If the Chinese can't squelch it, no lame homeland security initiative will work either.



But how will the NeoCons protect us from the big bad boogeyman then?
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Unread postby holmes » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 13:02:13

.... is already here. : - (
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Unread postby MD » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 13:04:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', '
')As for the post itself, there is no putting this genie back in the bottle. If the Chinese can't squelch it, no lame homeland security initiative will work either.



But how will the NeoCons protect us from the big bad boogeyman then?


On an individual basis. This current initiative will lead to the arrest of "internet radicals".

Many of us here on PO.com qualify already.
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Unread postby cynicalheretic » Thu 02 Nov 2006, 13:49:43

I have been lurking here for a few weeks, but I figured this post would be ideal one in which to out myself.

From what I understand of Chertoff's statement is that they should begin tracking down those who have the potential to either lead a rebellion or those who will join in after our government inacts their new police state.

Chess Like Strategy

First Step = US terrorist attack
Our Step = Yay go government

Second Step = Inact the patriot act.
Our step = Yay government

Third Step = Build an internal gestapo organization called home land security
Our step = Yay government, get those terroist

Fourth Step = Wiretap everyones phone
Our Step = Come again?

Fifth Step = Keep annoucing the terrorist are coming
Our Step = "AAAHHHH" Go government get them

Sixth Step == Sign Military Commisions Act = a person who, before, on, or after the date of the enactment of the Military Commissions Act of 2006, has been determined to be an unlawful enemy combatant by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal or another competent tribunal established under the authority of the President or the Secretary of Defense.

Our Step = As an american I have neither the understanding of the law or how to read beyound a 6th grade level, so yay government

Seventh Step = Rigor Mortis Habeus Corpus, Check mate in 4 moves
Our Step = Ah shit

***************
Possible further moves


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Unread postby JustinFrankl » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 01:16:24

Welcome to book burning in the 21st century.
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Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 02:30:52

If the Neocons get another stooge elected president after Dubya, we can kiss the republic goodbye. They'll completely remake this country.
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Unread postby TheDude » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 03:12:50

Country's been remade already. Was there even a post here about the Cons weakening posse comitatus? In between all the usual we'refuckedtentimestoSunday. Seems our heads are spinning too fast to even notice.

Go Praetorian Guard! I quite enjoyed the scene in Amerika where the Russians execute Congress en masse.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', 'W')elcome to book burning in the 21st century.


Best to look for work as a Fireman.*

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Unread postby Zardoz » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 03:27:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '*')Bonus for anyone who gets that lit ref.

Fahrenheit 451:

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Unread postby MD » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 05:45:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', '*')Bonus for anyone who gets that lit ref.

Fahrenheit 451:

"Oh, mummy, look! Firemen! There's going to be a fire!"


Dammit, I had that one.

would somebody please post answer to previous bonus?
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Unread postby JustinFrankl » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 10:34:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'w')ould somebody please post answer to previous bonus?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'M')y best guess is that indeed "the Internets" will have to be shut down to protect us from Goldstein...I mean from Osama.*


Emmanuel Goldstein wrote the dangerous book in 1984 called "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism". Supposedly written by Goldstein, the tome may or may not have been written by the Party. The Book, as it's called in the novel, and Brotherhood that surrounds it, may just be a way to bring out enemy combatants for easy identification.

And pstarr already got it, but his answer was so short it got buried.

Determining whether this means Osama is also a fictional character created by the state is left as an exercise for the reader.
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Unread postby MD » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 11:22:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'w')ould somebody please post answer to previous bonus?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', 'M')y best guess is that indeed "the Internets" will have to be shut down to protect us from Goldstein...I mean from Osama.*


Emmanuel Goldstein wrote the dangerous book in 1984 called "The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism". Supposedly written by Goldstein, the tome may or may not have been written by the Party. The Book, as it's called in the novel, and Brotherhood that surrounds it, may just be a way to bring out enemy combatants for easy identification.

And pstarr already got it, but his answer was so short it got buried.

Determining whether this means Osama is also a fictional character created by the state is left as an exercise for the reader.


I thought pstarr was referring to the book "1984"
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Unread postby JustinFrankl » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 11:50:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'I') thought pstarr was referring to the book "1984"

Did I miss something? You asked for the literary reference where Goldstein came from. Emmanuel Goldstein is the character in 1984. That's the answer.
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Unread postby Dreamtwister » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 13:13:34

Actually Emmanuel Goldstein was a contemporary of Orwell's and a poet and prominent anarchist at the time. In some literary circles, it is believed that Orwell's character "Goldstein" was based on Emmanuel Goldstein.

As for the 2600 magazine reference...When Eric Gorden Corley started publishing 2600 magazine (interestingly enough, in 1984) he adopted the name, but early readers will recall the decidedly anarchist overtones of the publication. He claims he took the name Emmanuel Goldstein from 1984, but he was either fully aware of the double meaning of the name, or ironically ignorant of it.

And for the record, I answered before pstarr, so I win. :P
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Unread postby TheDude » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 22:34:42

Not exactly big challenges here. Some of you have the mentality of Delta Minuses! You should be sent to Arizona!
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Unread postby ChicknLittle » Fri 03 Nov 2006, 23:04:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustinFrankl', 'D')etermining whether this means Osama is also a fictional character created by the state is left as an exercise for the reader.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ange&hl=en
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