[emailking]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('morph', 'h')ow can a ps3 consume that much power? does even a desktop pc use less power than that??

[FoxV]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('morph', 'h')ow can a ps3 consume that much power? does even a desktop pc use less power than that??

[dukey]

a top end pentium 4 will use 150-200 watts under load
it's pretty rediculous
thats excluding the rest of the components in a system

[mrobert]

My laptop uses 35 Watts

[gg3]

My laptops each use about 40 watts: the Mac I'm typing this on, and the HP right next to it.

As for game consoles: if you want something to plug into the wall that gives you cheap thrills, try an electric vibrator. Probably uses less than 100 watts, gets "results" in a few minutes rather than having to be on for hours, and you always "win."

[ohanian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gg3', '
')As for game consoles: if you want something to plug into the wall that gives you cheap thrills, try an electric vibrator. Probably uses less than 100 watts, gets "results" in a few minutes rather than having to be on for hours, and you always "win."

[MrMambo]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emailking', ' ')It's good to know ahead of time that the PS3 will be so much, but I will definitely be getting one and playing it on my 55'' plasma. You know, you're not going to be able to do that kind of thing at some point in the future. Might as well do so know while the USD you're making are worth something.

[gg3]

Ohanian, it uses the joystick you already have, no need to buy additional, uh, hardware.

[emailking]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrMambo', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emailking', ' ')It's good to know ahead of time that the PS3 will be so much, but I will definitely be getting one and playing it on my 55'' plasma. You know, you're not going to be able to do that kind of thing at some point in the future. Might as well do so know while the USD you're making are worth something.

[Battle_Scarred_Galactico]

Exactly Emailking, I would agree with you on that one. There will be more than enough problems trying to keep lights going a few decades hence, if you must have one do it now.

The price of the damn thing is worse than its' power use anyway, £400+ Sony have gone mad.

[gg3]

Sony went mad when they switched from being primarily a manufacturer of electronics to a licenser of intellectual property. And they went stark staring bonkers when they started inserting computer viruses in their music CDs.

In any case, for most things electronic, just say Panasonic.

[EndOfSewers]

Don't forget you won't have to pay extra for PS3 multiplayer. Over a couple of years the price works out to the same as an Xbox with a Live account. MS just hides the price with monthly micropayments.

[gg3]

And that, friends, is how "economic growth" can continue when energy supplies dwindle. More and more of what used to be free becomes monetized. It's called "the enclosure of the intellecutal commons."

Thank you for reading this remark. A micropayment of $0.02 has been deducted from your account.

[mrobert]

I remember watching this documentary about how agriculture was fscked up worldwide.
At the end, the CEO of Nestle was mentioning that drinking water should be sold for money, and not given for "free'. That we should treat it as a commodity.

What's next on the news :
"Water jumped 45% on fears of supply disruption by islamic terorists" ?

Water is not a commodity, since it has a closed circuit.
We can never run out of water, since we can't "use it up"

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mrobert', 'W')ater is not a commodity, since it has a closed circuit.
We can never run out of water, since we can't "use it up"

[EndOfSewers]

Maybe we can't use it up, but we can certainly render it unfit for consumption.

[mrobert]

We don't really have to do that ... don't we?

[Tyler_JC]

Pretend for a moment that all energy consumption is in the form of gasoline. Naturally, because of gasoline's energy density, the volume and weight of my energy resource consumption is actually much higher than the following figure, but please bear with me.

I consume 60 barrels of oil per year. That means I consume roughly twice my body weight in oil every week.

The human body has roughly the denstiy of water and gasoline is signficantly less dense than the water (thus, oil floats).

So if you want to think about volume, I am consuming three times my body's volume in oil every week.

Taken to the national level, America consumes 2.36 billion tons of oil equivalent every year.

The total bodyweight of America is about 23.6 million tons.

America is consuming 100x its weight in oil equivalent every year.

Granted, this includes coal, gas, oil, and nuclear energy but it is still a scary figure.

How can any combination of new energy sources come close to filling that need?

The scale of the problem becomes apparent when you attempt to visualize what 2.36 billion tons of oil would look like.



Every American consumes the equivalent of the body weight of one of those every year. Rather appropriate considering that most fossil fuels come from "dead dinosaurs" .

[perdition79]

This thread should be a "sticky." Required reading; because admitting that peope are nothing more than petroleum is the first step.

if it becomes a sticky, feel free to delete my post.

[AFO]

I like to study U.S. Energy(Oil,gas,electricity,coal,etc..) Consumption trends based on monthly usage.
Can someone throw in a graph for me?