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Re: Independent Doc: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 14:53:34

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The government's story is literally unraveling before our eyes.



Maybe I need some glasses. Last I looked, the conspiracy nuts have not yet produced the steel eating moon mice necessary to make their ideas hold together when under fire from the logic available to the average 10 year old.


What's your agenda? Very little that you say adds up, yet you keep saying it. You must have taken the book 1984, very seriously, with regards to government repetition of propaganda, making lies the truth.

The unfortunate thing for you, Pal, is most of us read the book and considered it a warning, not a how-to manual, as you obviously did.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 15:56:44

exactly right and I am glad that I am not the only one to sense it.

I knew I was not alone really but after seeing the responses here it is further confirmation.

Perhaps the moderators desire to study this element thus they allow it to live here yet I say it is a cancer and should be removed ASAP!

Since I put this agent, PMS and their ilk on my Ignore list I have received at least 10 personal messages from people here who want me to reopen and continue to resist these lies.
If I had all of the time in the world maybe I would but I do not and I will not spend my time here Waltzing with these people.

Today I will make an appeal to the moderators.
I will plead the case that this movement as well as others no longer needs these brick walls to bounce our balls off of.
I may even leave the forum area all together and rely on PO for the news articles.
I will ask that many of you join me in this appeal and let it be known that we no longer want to hear the repeated propaganda which spews from the keyboards of these people.
I know that I can spread knowledge in many different ways and that walking around in circles trying to convince people like Lorenzo that Biofuels will not save us is a complete waste of our time.
We could post stickies for that and be done with it.
We use to move FORWARD constructively but now all we seem to be doing is walking around in circles.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby threadbear » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 16:12:26

Neopo, I can think of a few who I disagree with vehemently, but who seem to be sincere. I think the moderators DO have to be aware that there seems to be purposeful disruption of the board, and it's deteriorating in quality, as a result. Many of the more astute observers and worthy opinion posters are gone. I honestly don't know how the moderators can deal with this issue, without stifling diversity of honest opinion.

I can detect an honest difference of opinion, versus a manipulative twisting of the truth, masquerading as an honest point of view and I'll bring it the attention of anyone who cares to read my posts.

It's best to call out individual posters who seem to have ulterior motives. It doesn't take much, just three little words will suffice to answer their posts. "ulterior motive alert"
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby AgentR » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 18:43:50

It is a bit disturbing that the people who seem so concerned about a possible coverup or conspiracy, also seem to be interested in silencing people who think the idea is outrageous.

I certainly do not want to see the conspiracy theorists silenced in any way. Though it is true to state that I don't want to see tax money spent on their agenda items. Get Soros to pay for it, he has plenty of money and seems to love poking BushCo.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby Mesuge » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 19:14:39

NEOPO & Threadbear> I support your suggestion. A minority consisting of several known individuals are constantly spaming these forums and disrupting any meaningfull debate be it on controversial subjects or not. It's a cancer and we should act now. Tons of very valuable information (I don't necessarily mean mine) is being constantly flushed over.

I'm nominating AgentR and ClubofRome for probation. Lets others voice their opinion how to arrange it. In case they continue in disruptive behavior their IPs shall be banned or by other means made to leave the forum.

This is PO forum, so the energy aspect of it is clear. A typical shill behind computer is using his energy and energy of others for silly activity therefore in the PO world this is very unmannered behaviour at the minimum. When re-calculated on the Apalachian coal mines - a typical forum shill might destroy quite a nice chunk of those forests per year.

PS: I hope they will rant for another xx pages how effectively they can hide identity and "outfox the system.."
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby AgentR » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 19:37:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mesuge', 'I')'m nominating AgentR and ClubofRome for probation. Lets others voice their opinion how to arrange it. In case they continue in disruptive behavior their IPs shall be banned.


I express my support for the CoC, and a rejection of American Political Apartheid.

Technical issue thats bugging me....
(not withstanding my above comment)

Ummm. IP's banned? Are you serious.

ipconfig / dhcp - release
sleep 60
ipconfig / dhcp - renew

new ip. Everyone sitting on a DSL / cablemodem is likely sitting in a pool of hundreds (or possibly even thousands) of IPs. Dial-ups almost always fork over a new IP. (There are exceptions, long ago, I did pay money for a 24hr fixed IP dialup, so it is possible.)

So unless you're volunteering for a 24 hour a day job of trying to detect me and all your untouchables, maybe you might want to lay off the technical suggestions.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 21:02:20

NEO NAZI ALERT!!!

WARNING WARNING!!

You are not the "other" side - stop pretending to be.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby AgentR » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 21:36:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'Y')ou are not the "other" side - stop pretending to be.


Lets see,

you're on the side in support of spending money to do another 9/11 investigation.

I'm on the side that thinks its a waste of money and would do nothing to reduce the amount of conspiracy / cover-up talk going on.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby NEOPO » Sun 08 Oct 2006, 23:54:32

hahah what a lame ass thing that is.
SPENDING MONEY OH HEAVENS NO!!!!!
HILARIOUS!!!

Do you guys pay him to come here I mean this is better then carlin live!!!

i am the advocate of poop and you are the advocate of pee and everyone knows poop beats pee everytime!!!

ahhhh hahahahahahah I havent laughed this hard in a long time.

you are reduced to a speck with that argument.

alright...was rwwff my test er something???

its funny and shit but where are the cameras?????

is that fucking ashton kutcher behind all this?!!?!?!?

ahhhh hahahahahah

Do i get to meet morpheus now??? oh please??
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby AgentR » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 00:07:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'D')o i get to meet morpheus now??? oh please??


You do make this forum an aweful lot of fun.

I take it from your reaction, that you won't mind if the 9/11 investigation advocates pay for their new commission?
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 00:38:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NEOPO', 'Y')ou are not the "other" side - stop pretending to be.


Lets see,

you're on the side in support of spending money to do another 9/11 investigation.

I'm on the side that thinks its a waste of money and would do nothing to reduce the amount of conspiracy / cover-up talk going on.


$600,000. for 911 investigation. $40,000,000. to investigate Clinton. Something very very wrong with this picture.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby AgentR » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 00:43:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '$')600,000. for 911 investigation. $40,000,000. to investigate Clinton. Something very very wrong with this picture.


Yeah, they are both obscene.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 00:51:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '$')600,000. for 911 investigation. $40,000,000. to investigate Clinton. Something very very wrong with this picture.


Yeah, they are both obscene.


Just over half a million to investigate 911 is obscene? You would equate that, in any way, with 40 million to investigate a blow job? You're out of your freaking mind.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby AgentR » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 00:55:09

No, one's obscenely low, the other's obscenely high. Spending the money all over again, would be even more obscene.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby Zentric » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 01:10:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', 'N')o, one's obscenely low, the other's obscenely high. Spending the money all over again, would be even more obscene.


You have left us in cliffhanger mode.

Why is it so obvious to you that "spending the money all over again, would be even more obscene." ?

Please explain why it's obvious to you. And then it will be obvious to us.

Otherwise you will have wasted our time.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby NEOPO » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 01:14:45

ta freakin da !!! waste time
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby AgentR » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 16:09:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'W')hy is it so obvious to you that "spending the money all over again, would be even more obscene." ?


Because it would create the same result.. a report, and lots of people yelling "cover-up".

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')lease explain why it's obvious to you. And then it will be obvious to us.


Because no one seems to be able to give me a realistic way such a commission could be formed that would not provoke yet another horde of "cover-up" nuts.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')therwise you will have wasted our time.

But I like wasting your time.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby Zentric » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 16:21:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'W')hy is it so obvious to you that "spending the money all over again, would be even more obscene." ?


Because it would create the same result.. a report, and lots of people yelling "cover-up".

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')lease explain why it's obvious to you. And then it will be obvious to us.


Because no one seems to be able to give me a realistic way such a commission could be formed that would not provoke yet another horde of "cover-up" nuts.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')therwise you will have wasted our time.

But I like wasting your time.


It's not obvious and your point of view assumes facts that are not evident. And it's not just mine but everyone's time you have just wasted.

And, of course, you have no credibility.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby AgentR » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 17:20:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'I')t's not obvious and your point of view assumes facts that are not evident. And it's not just mine but everyone's time you have just wasted.


Well, that is your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it. You aren't particularly entitled to assert your opinion as uniform upon the entire group of readers of po.com.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd, of course, you have no credibility.


I neither seek, nor am interested in credibility. Ideas either have merit, or they don't; and that merit is entirely independent of the person that presents them.
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Re: Documentary: "Oil, Smoke and Mirrors"

Unread postby Zentric » Mon 09 Oct 2006, 17:30:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zentric', 'I')t's not obvious and your point of view assumes facts that are not evident. And it's not just mine but everyone's time you have just wasted.


Well, that is your opinion, and you are certainly entitled to it. You aren't particularly entitled to assert your opinion as uniform upon the entire group of readers of po.com.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd, of course, you have no credibility.


I neither seek, nor am interested in credibility. Ideas either have merit, or they don't; and that merit is entirely independent of the person that presents them.


No, you don't understand. I merely pointed out that what you had expressed was gibberish - and on that basis wasted everyone's (and I mean everyone's) time.

And if you're not going to be credible, would you then mind terribly if you reduced your garbage posts to, say, less than five per day? Thanks.
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