[TylerJC]

If this is a possibility, we might want to investigate it. When Rome fell, there were people who profited. When the Depression happened, there were people who profited.

Side note: profit will come at the cost of human suffering

As a group, we might want to think about ways to make money off of the gradual decline of society. If we can, our chances of maintaining any kind of comfortable lifestyle increase dramatically.

Even the in Dark Ages, there were kings and nobles with luxury goods. This may sound selfish, and it is, but how do we get a seat at the table? I don't want to end up as a serf on some corn plantation. I don't want to enslave anyone else either. I'm wondering what kind of skills I'll need to survive in a shrinking economy.

I have 2 ideas.
1st buy silver (the price is set to explode)
2nd buy a gun (I can steal what I need)

If the transition is slow and orderly, the first idea is the best.
If the transition is quick and painful, the second makes more sense.

[seismic]

Please review the following website: seismicwells.com
Best Regards

[Seismic]

The powerpoint presentation at www.seismicwells.com includes audio and represents an excellent working interest prospect in West Texas for accredited investors.

[nailud]

TylerJC wrote:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1')st buy silver (the price is set to explode)
2nd buy a gun (I can steal what I need)

[sidoze]

[quote="TylerJC"]
Even the in Dark Ages, there were kings and nobles with luxury goods. This may sound selfish, and it is, but how do we get a seat at the table?
quote]

Makes you wonder what the elites in this country are really up to.

[Rod_Cloutier]

Evil begets evil. How about some positive solutions to deal with the peak oil issue and not talk about how to steal & pillage in an age of decline

[Guest]

How to profit from a decline in oil? Simple really.

Look for the alternatives to oil and then work at bringing those alternatives to market. If you have a home that is energy self sufficient then the effect of peak oil on your life will be dramatically reduced.

Once the general public becomes aware of peak oil and its implications there is going to be a HUGE demand for products that allow energy self sufficiency and the people that can make/install/maintain them.

Rather than sit here with the knowledge of impending doom and feeling helpless about it, lets position ourselves to profit from the experience and help our fellow man.

So, do you know how to install a solar system? Do you know how to make a wind turbine? Do you know how to build a composting unit that will create and store methane gas?

The opportunities are there and fairly easy to see if you are able to resist the paralysis of fear.

[tdrive]

Buy the following book from amazon:

The Oil Factor: How Oil Controls the Economy and Your Financial Future
by Donna Leeb, Stephen Leeb

Also suggested to buy energy futures with delivery dates
past 2010. Currently light sweet crude oil is the only one traded that far.

But beware, all those are very risky. With high potential profit
you have to be prepared for high risk (think of losing your shirt).

Cheers,

[JohnDenver]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Seismic', 'T')he powerpoint presentation at www.seismicwells.com includes audio and represents an excellent working interest prospect in West Texas for accredited investors.

[lowem]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JohnDenver', 'W')hat the hell's an "accredited investor"? I'm picturing a old, fat diabetic with a car collection.

[homotron]

I've started a site that tries to tackle this subject. It doesn't assume a full out apocalypse scenario or anything like that, just the price rise and some mildly difficult times.
You can find it at http://www.oilbeta.uni.cc
Yes, nothing too shabby yet but all comments/anything are more than welcome.

-homotron

[Guest]

For those with money, well, there are plenty of advice out there. For those without money, use this time that youre living in right now - a time of abundance and energy surplus -to get an education which will be widely accepted and acknowledged in the future. Engineer, smith, doctor, anything that is practical will be of great use and farmers would want to trade with you. Thats what im doing right now just in case the economists and forecasters will be wrong.

[Keith_McClary]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TylerJC', '
')The big question- can someone profit from Peak Oil?

[brentmeister]

You can make thousands of times your money from peak oil.

[exiled_armadillo]

If you take a lesson from back in the Carribean around the 1800's I think. It was total chaos. The ship builders, doctors and blacksmiths were the ones that were seen as neutrals. No one wanted them hurt because everyone benefited from their skills.

If you want to make money then learn how to garden organically using with an emphasis on intensive gardening. Even now you can learn how to make money doing this, then when all hell breaks loose you will eat, survive and even profit.

[RonBonnell]

I have been short the market since 12/30/1999, but getting killed the last couple of years. Should have been short the dollar instead of short the market. They can keep the market afloat by creating money ala Greenspan, but it lessens the value of the dollar. So dollar is low but market is a raging bull.

[Golgo13]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tdrive', 'A')lso suggested to buy energy futures with delivery dates
past 2010. Currently light sweet crude oil is the only one traded that far.

But beware, all those are very risky. With high potential profit
you have to be prepared for high risk (think of losing your shirt).

[liquid]

What I dont understand is this. If the economic system basically falls apart (and I'm not totally convinced it will), why on earth would people buy Gold or Silver. In the end that is nothing more than a commodity that has no "real" or "intrinsic" value. The U.S. dollar is no longer pegged to Gold reserves... and in my opinion it would serve little purpose to buy Gold. I guess that also depends on how world markets respond, and just how devastating this PO event is.

[spot5050]

Gold is probably the safest place you could put your money in times of trouble.

It's a counterbalance to the stockmarket, ie. if shares prices go down, gold goes up, and vice-versa. It underpins many of the world's currencies. Gold is tangible, portable wealth. (A bag of 200 gold sovereigns is worth £10k but would be about the size of a packet of cigarettes.)

When financial systems fail, wealth quickly moves into gold. Gold is like a safe haven.

This site describes the rise and fall of various montary systems throughout the ages, and how each related to gold;

http://www.galmarley.com/framesets/fs_m ... y_faqs.htm

[Guest]

Sure it's portable, and currently is stable. However when the people you are trying to trade with are having trouble feeding themselves, you might have trouble convincing them to take a small peice of useless, soft, yellow metal for their precious food or such.

Personaly, I think the most usefull trade items will be:
First - food & protection
Then - farming tools
later - other tools (repair & construction)
finaly - high quality metals, and other construction materials

I don't know how much food you want. Several tons of flour and beans will only cost a few thousand $.

For metals you might have a collective ton or so of:
steel
stainless steel
iorn
other things