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Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Falconoffury » Mon 02 Oct 2006, 22:45:33

I stumbled onto a very good article that not only discusses the symptoms of silicon poisoning, but the fact that this data is being covered up by the companies and doctors involved with the breast implant procedures.

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/article.cfm?id=86

One can expect autoimmune disorders as the immune system fights the silicone but is unable to effectively break it down or dispel it from the body.

50% of breast implants rupture within 12 years! Guys... don't marry a woman with fake breasts. The warranty isn't long enough.

Can the women of peakoil.com chime in here? It seems to me, from a man's perspective, that one would have to be quite insane, or willfully ignorant to put bags of silicon into one's body. Here's an idea, do some research. Get second opinions, not just from doctors, but women who have had the implants for a long time. One would think that such a life changing decision would be taken with more weight on one's mind.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby jupiters_release » Mon 02 Oct 2006, 22:55:29

Natural selection.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Falconoffury » Mon 02 Oct 2006, 23:06:50

I think this is bad for the human species as a whole. I can't think of an animal that poisons other members of its species. The way we are going, there may be nobody left alive. We are killing our species.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Mon 02 Oct 2006, 23:47:05

As dumb of a thing as it is to put plastic parts into your body, there is NO substantiable evidence that silicone implants cause health problems. Lots of people have been searching for a link for decades and they have all come up empty handed. In case you were wondering, no the anecdotes of Drmyhill.com "helping you diagnose illness online" do not constitute substantiable evidence.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby jupiters_release » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 00:09:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'A')s dumb of a thing as it is to put plastic parts into your body, there is NO substantiable evidence that silicone implants cause health problems. Lots of people have been searching for a link for decades and they have all come up empty handed. In case you were wondering, no the anecdotes of Drmyhill.com "helping you diagnose illness online" do not constitute substantiable evidence.


Breast cancers not evidence?

Huh?

Did I miss the sarcasm?
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby ChicknLittle » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 00:24:23

https://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/ab ... 342/11/781
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abs ... 32/25/1666

As above, there is no good evidence of a link between increased connective tissue disease or breast cancer and silicon implants... That is not to say that in the future some small link might be proven with even larger/longer studies, however the large studies available to date do not support a link. In my (humble) mind, the "common knowledge" of a link between connective tissue disease and silicon implants is a myth, fed by lawsuits/lawyers and the internet.

Women get connective tissue disease and breast cancer, and so do women with implants... You have to prove they get MORE than expected to blame silicon implants for causing disease.

Implants do rupture, however... That is a proven problem which can require repair.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 02:01:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ChicknLittle', 'I')mplants do rupture, however... That is a proven problem which can require repair.
Yeah. True. All implants also make mammogram interpretation somewhat more difficult. I was reffering to silicone causing connective tissue disease and cancer, for which people have been seeking a link for decades, and have utterly failed.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Doly » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 05:11:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'I') was reffering to silicone causing connective tissue disease and cancer, for which people have been seeking a link for decades, and have utterly failed.


I don't know how something as biologically inert as silicone could cause anything to happen.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Roy » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 08:28:23

The implants are just a symptom of our shallow, me first society. Where we are judged by appearances.

Has anyone seen the reality shows where teenaged girls get implants, and their mothers talk about how they want the best for their daughters and want them to have self-confidence???

WTF?

The message being sent is that you, as a female, are worth less than a female with big, fake, rock hard, often deformed and unsymmetrical tits. As if that had anything to do with anything.

I guess the fake tits can help some women land a guy with more money. Isn't that what its all about anyway?

Most of the ones I've seen look nasty, either too large for the woman, scarred, stretched skin, yecch!!

The ultimate sacrifice to the gods of materialism and fakery.

FWIW, I like natural women. Not the botoxed, fake breasted, silicon lipped, face lifted horrors that appear on my TV screen.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Falconoffury » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 09:39:03

The immune system responds to the breast implants in varying degrees. I'm not saying that they will kill one, but they will be detrimental to one's health because of the immune response. Some women develop massive scar tissue and have chronic fatigue.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Ayame » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 10:16:50

Is it possible to breast feed with silicon breast implants?
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Eli » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 10:35:03

Auto immune diseases in women can not be linked to silicone breast implants. What happens is auto immune diseases occur in significant numbers in the general population and often develop in women during their thirties and forties. That corresponds to the age when many women decided to get implants.

Women with or without silicone breast implants in their 30's and 40's develop auto immune disease at the same rate.

Chicken little is correct as well, the lawsuits back in the eighties were not based on sound medical studies. Those lawsuits were more about lawyers getting new BMWs than womens health.

The first site linked to is a good example of self selective anecdotal evidence, in other words bad science.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 11:01:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I')'m not saying that they will kill one, but they will be detrimental to one's health because of the immune response. Some women develop massive scar tissue and have chronic fatigue.
Assertions of immune impairment from silicone are scientifically unsubstantiable. As for scar tissue, a certain percentage of the population is prone to keloids or hypertrophic scars and will develop massive scar tissue from any break in the skin.

I think Roy's thoughts are right on.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')s it possible to breast feed with silicon breast implants?
It is certainly possible. My understanding is that the type of incision that is used is important. The circumareolar incision, as I understand it, disrupts the milk ducts and would make breast feeding much more difficult.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby WildRose » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 11:16:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', 'T')he implants are just a symptom of our shallow, me first society. Where we are judged by appearances.

Has anyone seen the reality shows where teenaged girls get implants, and their mothers talk about how they want the best for their daughters and want them to have self-confidence???

WTF?



Exactly. It's nice to be attractive and all, but I'd rather my daughter drew confidence from who she is and what she does.

Breast implants are another example of a trend that began in the entertainment industry and then trickled down to the general population and, finally, younger and younger girls. Very sad.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby holmes » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 11:36:58

Umm wait a minute. I have and had several stripper friends and one is one of my best friends and she was getting sick from hers. and others have had issues too. I for one know that a foreign object in the body the body fights it. weakens you and lets diseases have it easier. Im not sure on the cancer thing. Personally natural boobs are way better. Oh not on topic there. need a sex topic.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Falconoffury » Tue 03 Oct 2006, 17:30:46

Thanks holmes. Be careful with those studies. They are often conducted by the very institutions that stand to benefit from the idea that silicon breast implants are harmless. It's a classic conflict of interest.

I've heard some pretty bad stories from individual women of multiple corrective surgeries, large amounts of scar tissue, and sick feelings.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby lotrfan55345 » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 16:58:57

Isn't a significant portion of our bodies made out of silicone?

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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby Falconoffury » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 17:05:26

Yes, but silicon exists in our bodies as a compound. It behaves differently from the element.

It's like the fact that carbon monoxide is more dangerous to breathe than carbon dioxide.
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby holmes » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 17:28:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lotrfan55345', 'I')sn't a significant portion of our bodies made out of silicone?

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O my is that what I think it is? The ole brown eye? If so Ugh and yukky! : - O
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Re: Silicon Breast Implants

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 04 Oct 2006, 17:28:27

Ummm...breast implants use to be made of silicone which is a polymer. Silicon (no e) is an element which makes up sand, glass, computer chips, etc. So..no..a major portion of our bodies is not silicone (unless you are Pamela Anderson).
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