[Taskforce_Unity]

I went to a lecture last week and they were discussing that America might possible break up in two factions. The speaker was worried by seeing the cultural differences between the Heartland region and the coastal regions (as seen quite good by the red and blue colors for the states in the last elections).

He was saying that this break up might occur between now and 2010

Any Americans who have some ideas about this? Is the patriotic unity of America being damaged in the future by actions of the Bush Goverment? Will America stay as a whole empire or break down in smaller parts?

[Sencha]

In all seriousness, I truly believe that our country is intensely divided, and that a break-up would not be entirely implausible. It's of course, happened before, so my guess is that it could happen again. The last time we broke up, was due to the outcome of a Presidential election, so that could be the event in which one of the two Americas, will secede.

However, there are certain obstacles I think would be faced in a break-up. For one, we don't know how kindly the Administration would take to that if it happened. Would the President label an entire portion of the country a terrorist, rogue state?

I don't think this country has the capacity to endure another civil war, especially with the weapons we have now. It's nice to think that we could go our own seperate ways and leave each other alone, but somehow I think that's unrealistic.

I would imagine that small parts of the country would break away, but I think huger portions seperating would be less likely. On the other hand, if breaking away from the rest of the country would bring about too much of an economic hardship, then it simply would not be viable from a financial standpoint to do so. I know I wouldn't want to secede from the union if I knew it would starve us out.

My guess is, it would take a catastrophic event (like Peak Oil) to actually make it safe for the states that break up and in fact, it might become a necessity to do so. Rome broke up during its later years, because it was getting too large to handle, and there were too many problems to manage at once. Many people consider the U.S. to be the modern day Roman empire, so...maybe we'll see a repeat of that.

[satjeet]

I believe the country will break up - but de facto, not de jure. As
energy sources wane, the ability to project control over long
distances will diminish. We will depend on regions and localities -
and federal even state governments will become less and less important.

[Specop_007]

I'll tell ya, I sure hope it does.
I'm getting pretty damned tired of these fuckin Democrats and their assbrained schemes trying to shove gestapo laws down my throat.

[Sencha]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ll tell ya, I sure hope it does.
I'm getting pretty damned tired of these fuckin Democrats and their assbrained schemes trying to shove gestapo laws down my throat.

[UncoveringTruths]

Specop_007
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ll tell ya, I sure hope it does.
I'm getting pretty damned tired of these fuckin Democrats and their assbrained schemes trying to shove gestapo laws down my throat.

[Olaf]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ll tell ya, I sure hope it does.
I'm getting pretty damned tired of these fuckin Democrats and their assbrained schemes trying to shove gestapo laws down my throat.

[cador]

John Titor (the internet time traveller from 2036; www.johntitor.com) said that the signs of a US civil war would start to become apparent sometime after the 2004 elections.

I think that the resentment that the urban and rural factions feel for each other seems pretty benign right now but this could be multiplied by 10 if there is a severe recession in 2006 because of peak oil.

[Kingcoal]

Specop_007 just does it for attention, pay him/her/shemale, whatever, no mind.

[cador]

Leftists considering the use of violence because of 2004 election results

These are just a few disgruntled leftists talking amongst themselves anonymously, but imagine what a severe recession in 2006 might inflame?

[ISI246]

America will seperate into two that is my assumption atleast thats what i expect and for the most part most people are going leave America in all. That is my theorey.

-Joseph

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sencha', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ll tell ya, I sure hope it does.
I'm getting pretty damned tired of these fuckin Democrats and their assbrained schemes trying to shove gestapo laws down my throat.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Olaf', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ll tell ya, I sure hope it does.
I'm getting pretty damned tired of these fuckin Democrats and their assbrained schemes trying to shove gestapo laws down my throat.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sencha', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'ll tell ya, I sure hope it does.
I'm getting pretty damned tired of these fuckin Democrats and their assbrained schemes trying to shove gestapo laws down my throat.

[Olaf]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'F')air enough. Congrats for settin your balls on the table and tellin it like you see it. Feels good doesnt it?

[Taskforce_Unity]

Great turning into a flame fest. Could we keep the issue of INTERPRETATION of the differences between the democrats and republican parties outside please. There are differences but to me they aren't that big. Both parties flaming are quite unnuanced and bashing eachother.

If there will be a split up will both parts able to keep eachother in control or will there be no foothold in for instance the coastal part? Is their an even distrubution of power and resources?

[TheSupplyGuy]

Both sides are kind of bitter, but it doesn't seem to me that it'll be open revolt or anything(then again, I do live in a solid red state, or at least one that GW won by more than 51%, it was 57% if I remember correctly, lol). it would take a major recession, war, or scandal to force something like that. I basically feel that there is a wound, but something would have to pick it to make it bleed.

[Guest]

Why do you guys put up with this spe_cop fella. Thats the trouble with you Americans - you spend inordinate amounts of time massaging the egos of these time wasters.

Times too short to worry what they think. In fact, I wonder what he's/she's/its doing here. You don't see me surfing whacko Right wing sites to hassle them. Each to their own I say, speckel (is that spek_up, spat_crap...oh what ever....).

[Sencha]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hy do you guys put up with this spe_cop fella. Thats the trouble with you Americans - you spend inordinate amounts of time massaging the egos of these time wasters.

[Guest]

Sencha

Owning guns etc is not an issue with me. We will have to deal with PO as we find it. I live in the Deep South of New Zealand, out in the country and bear arms when out hunting. I ain't no city dweller.

Our problem is an excess of consumerism (shopping mall culture) - too much of everything - by folks in the city. I get pissed off with smart mongrels like this spe_c dude who spouts the same crap we hear over here from the boneheads that want to tarmac this country with more shops and roads.

I am armed, have dogs, have always preferred my own company and reckon we should leave nature alone. Thats why I live in the best place on earth - ain't too many smart asses round here and not likely to be for a long time to come.