[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', '"')Suburbia is the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of mankind"

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '
')A basic rule regarding planning permits would do most of difference.
It would say:
"Anyone willingful to build living estate in the countryside 3 miles or more from the place where factories/bussiness centres are located, has to demonstrate that he will be able to make a living base on economy typical to the countryside".

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')dditionally it would be very difficult to get a planning permit to build up a factory "in the middle of nowhere" (very good reasons would be needed) and developers would be barred from purchasing large plots of land in the countryside.

[Tanada]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')dditionally it would be very difficult to get a planning permit to build up a factory "in the middle of nowhere" (very good reasons would be needed) and developers would be barred from purchasing large plots of land in the countryside.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tanada', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')dditionally it would be very difficult to get a planning permit to build up a factory "in the middle of nowhere" (very good reasons would be needed) and developers would be barred from purchasing large plots of land in the countryside.

[TommyJefferson]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EnergyUnlimited', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', 'J')ust because you believe homosexuality or SUV's have a corrosive effect on society does not give you the right to use violence against the people who wish to make use of them.

[MD]

That's precisely the sense I get when I watch teenagers line up for days in order to be first to experience the next incremental increase in techno adrenalin.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MD', 'T')hat's precisely the sense I get when I watch teenagers line up for days in order to be first to experience the next incremental increase in techno adrenalin.

[neocone]

Hence the rise of emotional nihilism and pure reaction against any form of emotional conditionning as a reaction. Look for Litorra on IMDB

[emailking]

I've already decided I'm going to buy a PS3.

[ohanian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('emailking', 'I')'ve already decided I'm going to buy a PS3.

[master_rb]

since we talk about PS3, i read that people slept on the sidewalk for few days and among them a 9 months pregnent woman

so i guess your title is valid

[MD]

It goes deeper than that. We have achieved the peak of mass consumerism, where larger and more frequent deliveries from China slip into our docks, until we can take no more.

[EnergyHog]

All that money we print has gotta go somewhere and I certainly can't imagine anyone saving it. We all know there are no rainy days in the US.

But really, what better time to spend US dollars, they won't be worth their weight in gold forever. Just make sure to spend them on the right things.

[Mechler]

Half the people lining up for days were exhibiting an orgasm of capitalism, not consumerism. Once they got home, they put them on ebay for 2-7 times the retail price.

The real consumerism was done by those people paying the ebay premium because they couldn't wait until January to get one.

[onecvj]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Mechler', 'H')alf the people lining up for days were exhibiting an orgasm of capitalism, not consumerism. Once they got home, they put them on ebay for 2-7 times the retail price.

The real consumerism was done by those people paying the ebay premium because they couldn't wait until January to get one.

[dunewalker]

I posted this yesterday on the "Planning For The Future" thread, but this seems a better venue for it, so here goes: Last evening, as the two of us sat by the fire in our cozy little cabin here in the desert, we spontaneously decided to spend December buying nothing, to celebrate the American holiday spirit of conspicuous consumption. After a quick rundown of available food supplies, gasoline situation in our vehicles, transportation needs for the next month, etc, we realized that indeed it was possible, with a few sacrifices, adjustments and minor contortions, along with a couple of refined working definitions. Our neighbor generously offered to loan us 5 gallons of gasoline--nope, sorry that doesn't fit. Instead we'll carpool a time or two, take the bicycle along and park near town, shortening the trip to stretch gas. Oops, we're a bit short on cat food. But, what about the case of canned organic tuna in the cellar? That's it! Spaghetti every night? What else is new? Not enough beer? No problem, I can handle a glass of wine with dinner, then a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale later...

I've a hunch now that we'll only be a month or two ahead of the rest of the pack in this exercise, but soon it will be more than a game...

[emailking]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('woodcutter', 'I') posted this yesterday on the "Planning For The Future" thread, but this seems a better venue for it, so here goes: Last evening, as the two of us sat by the fire in our cozy little cabin here in the desert, we spontaneously decided to spend December buying nothing, to celebrate the American holiday spirit of conspicuous consumption. After a quick rundown of available food supplies, gasoline situation in our vehicles, transportation needs for the next month, etc, we realized that indeed it was possible, with a few sacrifices, adjustments and minor contortions, along with a couple of refined working definitions. Our neighbor generously offered to loan us 5 gallons of gasoline--nope, sorry that doesn't fit. Instead we'll carpool a time or two, take the bicycle along and park near town, shortening the trip to stretch gas. Oops, we're a bit short on cat food. But, what about the case of canned organic tuna in the cellar? That's it! Spaghetti every night? What else is new? Not enough beer? No problem, I can handle a glass of wine with dinner, then a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale later...

I've a hunch now that we'll only be a month or two ahead of the rest of the pack in this exercise, but soon it will be more than a game...

[dunewalker]

emailking, good question. Since becoming conscious of the peak oil issues in the last couple of years, we've spent much time and energy stocking up, gaining skills, etc for an uncertain future. Recently I had another epiphany, that it was impossible to stock up enough stuff from the 20th century to carry us through the rest of our lives. The answer in preparation now seems to be the development of skills. So in a sense this "buy nothing December" will be a test of our readiness, as well as being a statement rejecting the concept of consuming as a religion, epitomized by the Christmas season.

[emailking]

Ok, I see. Well, good luck pulling it off then.