[alpha480v]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', '
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And BTW, it was not God who did to you whatever hurt you cling to, it was other people listening to the worst that is in them, and inspired by the worst that is without them.

[firestarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alpha480v', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', '
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And BTW, it was not God who did to you whatever hurt you cling to, it was other people listening to the worst that is in them, and inspired by the worst that is without them.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') had said I would not post hee again, but I have to say that the question of pain is still a real question for me. Why God would allow that.... platitudes aside, the best answer I have ever heard is that He respects our freewill.

[firestarter]

EJ,

I didn't have you in mind with my pious platitude comment, although it probably seemed that way realtive to the timing of my posts. Sorry if you took it that way.

You seem like a thoughful , caring person who's going through an existential crisis of sorts. You've laid your soul bare on this forum in a very unvarnished, raw way, and I for one feel a great deal of compassion for you. No matter what anyone around here thinks about your views I'd be surprised if they'd wish you any ill will or misfortune.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'D')o you believe there is a God?

[firestarter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') had said I would not post hee again, but I have to say that the question of pain is still a real question for me. Why God would allow that.... platitudes aside, the best answer I have ever heard is that He respects our freewill.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') don't see where one can find fault with the way he told us to treat each other or the vision he tried to show us for society.

[EndDays]

Brother Elijah,

Good to read your posts.

For those who aren't familiar with Biblical prophecy, before the return of Christ, there will be a rise to power of the Man of Sin. He's also known as the Beast, Son of Perdition, or "Antichrist". See 2 Thess 2 and Rev 13.

This man will work all kinds of signs and wonders and deceive the whole world, minus the true followers of Christ into worshipping him.

Think about world events and our global economy. If things go south really bad and we enter a global crisis, how do you think people will receive someone who "rescues" us. If it doesn't happen this time, it will happen some day. It is His Word, it will happen.

The problem is, this man is no saviour. He's done nothing to rectify the problem seperating us from God - sin.

Our true Saviour, Jesus Christ, didn't rescue us for a better earthly life, He died on the cross to take our punishment for our sins on Himself. God is Holy and Perfect, we are sinful and wretched. Thus we are seperated from Him. In order to enter Heaven and be in God's presence, we must be righteous and Holy. In order for that to happen, Christ had to take our punishment for our sins on Himself.

The link in my sig has a great test which shows us how we will do on Judgment Day.

Eternal life is a free gift, given by God's awesome grace and goodness, and received by us through repentance (turning from sin) and putting our whole trust in Christ as Lord and Saviour.

I gladly accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour. Thank-you Lord!

In Him,
ED

[DesertBear2]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', '
')
Our true Saviour, Jesus Christ, didn't rescue us for a better earthly life, He died on the cross to take our punishment for our sins on Himself.

[lateralus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('EndDays', '
')For those who aren't familiar with Biblical prophecy, before the return of Christ, there will be a rise to power of the Man of Sin. He's also known as the Beast, Son of Perdition, or "Antichrist". See 2 Thess 2 and Rev 13.

[Eli]

laterus you can find some Christians that believe George Bush is the anti-Christ.

I can tell you for sure that his membership in Skull and Bones makes him suspect in my mind. Also the neocon new world order that both he and his Father are all gun-ho about, makes me question where their true allegiances lie. (pun intended)


I think there is also something interesting about the promise held in Christ. I think most people would like to see peace and love rein over all the world, that is what Christ is. People working together where the highest value and importance is placed on charity and mercy.

When we look at the world it is obvious that this not how things work currently. The physical world we live in is much more Darwinian, it is kill or be killed it is do it unto the other guy before he does it to you. All too rarely are peace and compassion appreciated.

I find it very interesting that people like Hitler and Stalin were able to wreak so much death and destruction on this earth. They were both regarded as demi-gods too. Stalin lived to a ripe old age and Hitler still was in control to the very end, then at the time of his choosing and his murderous rein was closing he took his own life.

Meanwhile men like Gahndi and Martin Luther King were cut off by an assassins bullet. Just look at how often people who reach out and stand up for peace are wiped out and killed, Sadat Itzhak Rabin. When good comes into the world the world hates it because many men prefer evil. Compassion is for the weak and feeble minded.

At the end of PO and the coming world collapse and all the death that will come I think most people hope that the world will some how end up a better place. That is also the promise held in Jesus Christ , I see in Jesus a better world a world as it should be and not as it is.

Rev 21:4
" And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

[lateralus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Eli', 'l')aterus you can find some Christians that believe George Bush is the anti-Christ.