[Miki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'T')his forum is a tribute to those who see the impending economic catastrophe. When I consider that of the great philosophies and religions of the world, the only one which resonates with the deepest desires of my heart, for peace and love and prosperity are the words and teachings of Jesus Christ, I am unable to know why. My clever mind cannot discover the reason.

[NEOPO]

Jesus had the following things to say , they said, paraphrased by me because I am nearly certain of the meaning yet lacking on the tablatures

"It is an evil generation that seeks a sign"

and

"Take no thought for your life, nor for what you eat or put on as life is more then raiment and food"

Does this apply?
Are you/we the evil generation? seeking signs? most definately...

So we can know the hour?

Yet "I will come as a thief in the night"................thus we will never know the "hour".

Now I do not believe much of this yet it doesnt take a wizard to read and understand that most people do the opposite of what Jesus suggested.
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There is much to learn Mr. Jones.

I suggest THEOSOPHY.

Through this you will find the keys to the doors of perception that you now seem to wish open.

Let us assume that your prophecy comes to pass.
Could it not be an evil demon/devil that made such things occur?

Knowing that "evil" exists only in the mind of mankind and also knowing that the real meaning of demon was "gaurdian" to the ancients.............I laugh

Dogma is a fun game I like to play

Jad havah = male and female = god was a male principle to the hebrew = jad = god = generic term for male deity = jadhavah = jehovah = when male and female split from the androgynous root form = you are welcomed.

I leave you with what I consider to be some of Jesus' finest words:
"Father my father why have you forsaken me"

or

Eloi eloi lama sabachthani

[presidentsherrill]

Belief in God will be your downfall

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'H')ow do 12 relatively unimportant figures in ancient Judea succeed in creating a fake message that now is the basis of the religion beliefs of one in every three human, over two billion people?

[Jack]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') believe we are entering times when no Christian can be justified in killing for any reason.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') also do not see where the Bible insists that the world is only 6000 thousands years old

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') believe we are entering times when no Christian can be justified in killing for any reason.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'I') believe we are entering times when no Christian can be justified in killing for any reason.

[Peak_Modernity]

EJ,

For a different perspective on Christianity, search for articles by James P. Danaher. It took 4 years of philosophy with him and from what you have written here, you would absolutely love his stuff. You can find several articles online and he has a book or two on amazon.com (the most recent one should be best) If you can't find anything PM me and I can scan copies of articles that I have for you.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'S')o perhaps I would also kill if that's what was needed to stop someone from killing me.

[rogerhb]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', 'O')f course you know this is a very old debate.

[Eli]

EJ

Be thankful that you have been blessed with knowledge of God in his son Jesus Christ.

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.


1 Corinthians 1:2
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men

Stay strong in Christ EJ,

The funny thing is many many people here realize that it looks like it is the end of the world. They freely admit it and talk about it nonstop what they do not know is that it has a purpose. Christ is coming back to claim his Kingdom.

In the darkness that is about to come to this world or I should say has come, the love and compassion through Christ that you show others will shine bright as the sun.