[Carlhole]

Crossing the Rubicon: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of Oil
by Michael C. Ruppert

This is a detective story that gets to the innermost core of the 9/11 attacks. It places 9/11 at the center of a desperate new America, created by specific, named individuals in preparation for Peak Oil: an economic crisis like nothing the world has ever seen.

The attacks of September 11th, 2001 were accomplished through an amazing orchestration of logistics and personnel. Crossing the Rubicon discovers and identifies the key suspects and persons of interest - finding some of them in the highest echelons of American government - by showing how they acted in concert to guarantee that the attacks. link

[EnviroEngr]

http://peakoil.com/fortopic382-0-asc-15.html#15145

[Carlhole]

I haven't had a chance to peruse it yet; the power is out (funny thing) due to the recent spate of unusually frequent and large hurricanes that blew through Florida. (I suppose that's also sort of humorous). Actually, the power is dimly on - lights are low and the elevators don't work.
(I hope I'm not giving away too much about my socio-economic class).

But Wow!, what a heroic-looking volume is "Crossing the Rubicon" , a good 600 pages. At first glance it appears to be a real labor. I hope it's good!

[Rembrandt]

If you have some time could you spell out the main themes of the book? (i'm not sure if i want to order it yet..)

[Specop_007]

I heard a rumor Florida is having a storm or two these days. So its true eh?

[Carlhole]

Sure, I'll give a little book report on "Crossing the Rubicon". I'll be digging into it later today.

I've read Chossudovsky's "War and Globalization" and Nafeez Ahmed's "War on Freedom" and "Behind the War on Terror" and (can't remember the author's name) "The New Pearl Harbor".

They all say substantially the same thing. It's not like JFK assasination literature where there is a different theory du jour. Here, everyone seems to agree. What I gather from these books is that the authors are fully aware that their allegations seem completely over-the-top to many Americans so they are all very careful to distance themselves from the Jim Marrs type of conspiracy theory treatise. Strangely, Europeans are much more willing to believe that US covert operations were involved in 911 than Americans are.

"The New Pearl Harbor" was written in the manner of a prosecuting attorney developing a case for trial although the author is a theologian. Mike Ruppert, being an ex-LAPD investigator, has written, at first glance, an investigative report on a large-scale homicide.

Michael Chossudovsky is a Canadian economics professor who runs www.globalresearch.ca and Nafeez Ahmed seems to be a very brilliant young student of foreign affairs (he was only 22 when "War on Freedom" appeared) who simply collected all the available public information from around the world and put it into first-rate scholarly form. I was very impressed with Ahmed's book as were some notables such as Gore Vidal who has written a few slim books on 911 himself and who also strongly suspects high-level shenanigans.

911 needs a full-on independent investigation. But that won't happen until the political climate changes. And there is, of course, a chance that the whole thing will be muddled-over and ignored until interest wanes, never putting to rest the suspicions of a great many people. Don't forget about the recent Zogby International poll which found that 1/2 of all New Yorkers of all political stripes, ages, backgrounds believed that governement was complicit in 911 to some degree. This story will be with us for some time.

[clv101]

I've recently been looking at various books and their Amazon.com's sales ranking.

Michael Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon seems very high with a ranking of 291. Does anyone know how many copies this actually is? It seems like a pretty high ranking considering how radical it's content.

The ranking for other books relating directly to peak oil isn't so high:
The End of Oil 2,106
Limits to Growth, 30 year update 2,410
Powerdown 2,670
The Party's Over 2,792
Blood and Oil 3,629
Hubbert's Peak 8,399
Out of Gas 8,886
High Noon for Natural Gas 28,703

I haven't read Crossing the Rubicon yet but from what I've read about it would I be correct in thinking Ruppert central point is that Peak Oil is behind everything we're seeing today regarding "war on terror" and global economy? If so is his book the best selling Peak Oil book?

[WebHubbleTelescope]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clv101', 'I') haven't read Crossing the Rubicon yet but from what I've read about it would I be correct in thinking Ruppert central point is that Peak Oil is behind everything we're seeing today regarding "war on terror" and global economy? If so is his book the best selling Peak Oil book?

[StayOnTarget]

I saw it as high as 89 a couple of weeks ago.


They don't tell you how many copies it equates to which is a little frustrating. It was my understanding that the first printing had sold out already, and I believe the first printing amounted to 15K books. I thought amazon was out of stock altogether, but apparently not.


I have read it and can only encourage others to read it and make up their own minds.

[MonteQuest]

Shannymara asked me to move this here:

There is some info on Amazon sales ranks here:

http://www.fonerbooks.com/surfing.htm

[Such]

I saw Crossing the Rubicon as high as #54 on Amazon maybe a week or two ago.

[zed]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clv101', 'I') haven't read Crossing the Rubicon yet but from what I've read about it would I be correct in thinking Ruppert central point is that Peak Oil is behind everything we're seeing today regarding "war on terror" and global economy? If so is his book the best selling Peak Oil book?

[skateari]

yeah theres a lot more in that book then just peak oil.. therse only a few chapters on it, but its good. hes just trying to show the underlying reasons for 9/11, 'war on terror' ,etc, etc. by showing this is the US's response to Peak Oil. They needed war to get resources, but also needed the backing of the American people. 9/11 and the war on terror provided the backing for the war, even thought they were all acts of our own government simpily to draw support on a much needed war.. Its much more then a peak oil book but then again he makes it clear that Peak Oil is such a problem that it is pushing the American Empire into what we are now doing today.. and its only the begining

[savethehumans]

Ruppert wove peak oil into his book, as it plays a significant part in what the Empire--and the rest of the world, for that matter--is up to these days. But he says himself (yes, IN THE BOOK) that peak oil has been taken up by many people now, and it has entered mainstream thought. He no longer has to focus on peak oil as an individual subject, because more than enough people are doing that now. He is very happy about this.

His frustration is on record over at his site, www.fromthewilderness.com: they printed x many copies in the first printing. It sold out like hotcakes. So naturally, the printer was reluctant to print a bunch more, fearing they wouldn't be bought! Massive protest from We The People, encouraged by Ruppert, got them to change their minds. Of course, they are still not printing in the quantities that you'd expect from a best-selling book--and make themselves much money, the be all and end all of any publisher's goals! This leads one to the reasonable conclusion that SOMEONE is putting pressure on the printers. Meantime, the books are still being ordered (there may be some still on backorder from when there weren't any). People WANT THIS BOOK.

Thus, this saga is bound "to be continued." This makes Ruppert, and those of us lucky enough to have, and have read, the book, very, very happy, indeed!

[Pherdz]

At one point, I had seen the book at #34 on Amazon when I bought it.

I'm only a 128 pages into it (it's a BIG BOOK) and I'm totally spooked and paranoid now. I will never look at our gov't, the CIA and Wall Street the same. I am a newcomer to the age of Peak Oil INFO and Ruppert's book brought me into this field of knowledge. I have already started reccommending this book to many of my friends, who now think I'm crazy, which is pretty unfortunate because it really makes me see how people just don't want to look at reality. They would much rather live in an existance of denial because life is much easier that way. But like many of you here, I think knowledge is power and it only frustrates me that my loved ones will not pay attention.

For those who haven't started reading this book yet, I INSIST. When I watch the media now, I chuckle at how and the ways in which they supress the truth.

[Grimnir]

Seems to me that if even half of Ruppert's ideas were true, he, his book, and his website would have been taken down a long time ago.

[skateari]

Yeah I think this book could have been on the NY Best seller list already if the publisher had printed the ammount of books being demanded. The book was in the 30's on Amazon sales ranking before the book sold out, now the rating is in the 300's. At the rate this book was gaining attention it could have been a bestseller by now - but due to the publisher priting a low ammount of books the sales arn't as high as they should be. I personaly called New Society and asked them why they were not printing Crossing the Rubicon as fast as they should - the replied that there were problems and the ammount of books they printed had to be cut down The first run of 30,000 books sold out and the waiting list for the book is already about that number, for some reason the publisher only wants to print 10,000 more which would not even make up for the people on the waiting list.. this book is seriously gaining some attention and I do think the government is at least trying something to stop this book from getting the populatiry that is possible. Get the book, if you can

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')'m only a 128 pages into it (it's a BIG BOOK) and I'm totally spooked and paranoid now. I will never look at our gov't, the CIA and Wall Street the same. I am a newcomer to the age of Peak Oil INFO and Ruppert's book brought me into this field of knowledge. I have already started reccommending this book to many of my friends, who now think I'm crazy, which is pretty unfortunate because it really makes me see how people just don't want to look at reality. They would much rather live in an existance of denial because life is much easier that way. But like many of you here, I think knowledge is power and it only frustrates me that my loved ones will not pay attention.

[Bytesmiths]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('clv101', 'I')'ve recently been looking at various books and their Amazon.com's sales ranking.

[skateari]

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Spend a few hours googling about Ruppert and read some text by his detractors before joining his legion of disciples. I would suggest this for any author, but particularly for Ruppert.