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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Ayame » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 05:13:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '
')Um, did you even read the post that started this thread? Peak oil = end of patriarchy, i.e., we evil men are to blame for all the evils in the world, even women buying loads of crap they don't need. But no worries, we'll get our comeuppance. The matriarchy will put us back in our place. :roll:


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You sound like a immature women-hating man that needs to get over himself and stop playing the victim [/sarc]

howz that for reasoning.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby WildRose » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 05:25:43

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Can we just agree that people are a little more repulsive as they age? Women who try to change that are missing out on one of the great opportunities of their lives--a sex free existence.


Gosh, that's funny, Threadbear! And I guess I never thought of it that way - the reward of a sex-free existence for escaping the trappings of sexual attraction.

So many of the changes men and women strive for in their appearance are driven by the desire to look younger, to defy the physical metamorphosis of middle-age. There are things we can't change, that's for sure. Of course, the reason why plastic surgery and other measures are so popular is because some folks have a hard time accepting the natural changes their bodies and faces undergo with age. And I think this is directly related to a culture that, by and large, equates youth with beauty.

Hollywood and magazines have been very successful at shaping our ideas of what is desirable and this is being relayed to our young people, who no doubt will go on to have the same angst about their appearance as they age. I think men and women need to be easier on themselves in this regard. I mean, we can stay as fit as possible because we feel good and we're healthier that way, but do we really need to have the same size waist we had at age 24? And does naturally grey hair make our spouse less attractive when he/she still has that same great smile, beautiful eyes?

I just thought of something else - our focus on trying to look younger is bound to change when rougher days come - we'll have less time/money/inclination to worry about it.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby holmes » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 11:32:26

heres a little advice. and to keep the brain and body young and healthy. fresh. sexually desirable. Keep the lust in your life.
Eat raw fruits and vegtables. Learn how to prepare them. Only eat dried fish and beef. Enzymes, vitamins and minerals within raw only. cooked = dead.
Live in tune with nature and excercise within here bosom. move with a loose jiggy. Use the glutes and quads when moving.
Stop blaming or turn in to a dried up prune.
peace.
The jimmy will be hard as a cinder block 24/7. the sweet spot wet and ready.
Understand? or have u dried up already?
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Loki » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 13:00:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '
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You sound like an immature man-hater. You need to get over yourself and stop acting the victim.

Double standards are the sine qua non of feminism.


Unbelievable. You can't take it so you take to insults instead.
I think it is rather you who are immature. I make a rational observation and all of a sudden I'm labelled a man-hating feminist. Unbelievable, but maybe by looking at the history of this board it's to be expected. Double standards are the sine qua non of everything human from monarchies to corporations, in fact wherever power accumulates btw.


You obviously didn't even read your own post. I just repeated what you wrote. I'm a smartass with little tolerance for gender crusaders. And the more you moan about the oppression of women on this board, the more you sound like a man-hating feminist. I don't know what forums you hang out in, but I have yet to come across any threads devoted exclusively to blaming women for anything--I see very little gender baiting here at all, with the notable exception of this ridiculous thread. But playing loose and fast with the facts is another favored tactic of feminist ideologues.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Ayame » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 13:26:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '
')You obviously didn't even read your own post. I just repeated what you wrote. I'm a smartass with little tolerance for gender crusaders. And the more you moan about the oppression of women on this board, the more you sound like a man-hating feminist. I don't know what forums you hang out in, but I have yet to come across any threads devoted exclusively to blaming women for anything--I see very little gender baiting here at all, with the notable exception of this ridiculous thread. But playing loose and fast with the facts is another favored tactic of feminist ideologues.


hang on a minute, you were the one complaining about men being blamed for everything evil in this thread. I guess that doesn't count as gender crusading unless I do it. I don't care about the whole blaming thing all I want to know and for you to explain is why if you stick up for your gender it's totally ok you're not a woman-hater or anything but if I do it I am told I sound like a man-hating feminist. Explain that and I'm be happy.

If you are looking for gender baiting threads you obviously missed these, I wasn't lying btw:
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic20837-0-asc-0.html
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic21452-0.html
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 15:18:44

Three topics does not an epidemic make.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 21 Jul 2006, 19:48:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', '
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If you are looking for gender baiting threads you obviously missed these, I wasn't lying btw:
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic20837-0-asc-0.html
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic21452-0.html
Thank you for not including Patriarchy and Matriarchy which was never intended as a "gender baiting" thread. It turned out that way because of one rather strident poster.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 00:30:12

Sadly, this topic keeps attracting the strident ones
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Loki » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 02:02:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', '
')hang on a minute, you were the one complaining about men being blamed for everything evil in this thread. I guess that doesn't count as gender crusading unless I do it. I don't care about the whole blaming thing all I want to know and for you to explain is why if you stick up for your gender it's totally ok you're not a woman-hater or anything but if I do it I am told I sound like a man-hating feminist. Explain that and I'm be happy.

If you are looking for gender baiting threads you obviously missed these, I wasn't lying btw:
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic20837-0-asc-0.html
http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic21452-0.html


Wow, two whole threads, one of which won't open (but probably not your fault--this website has some major technical issues). The one I could get to open was a tongue-in-cheek thread about Aaron not being able to get laid. Big deal (but granted, I didn't read all the replies--I'm sure they were highly enlightened). But the post that started this utterly pointless thread was written, I presume, in all seriousness. Patriarchy to blame for everything....blah blah blah....Marija Gimbutas' mythical ancient matriarchy will make a come back and put all us men back in our place.....blah blah blah.

As for me being a gender crusader, please point out where I blamed either gender for anything. I personally believe both genders are equally to blame for the shithole we've made this planet. I just can't abide people who shake their finger at one biological group while they are willfully blind to their own failings. Feminists are the prime example of this. And feminists can be equipped with either a penis or a vagina. I've met plenty of the former--they are generally self-loathers; either that, or cynical liars hoping to get laid.

Frankly Ayame, I'm tired of baiting you. You're too easy. It's like fishing for planted trout. No challenge. Not that it wasn't fun, but I think it's time to wrap it up. Bye bye. :)
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Ayame » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 02:22:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '
')As for me being a gender crusader, please point out where I blamed either gender for anything.


Well if you're going to be like that please point out where I blamed either gender for anything and was presumably therefore accused of being a gender crusader/feminist/man-hater.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I personally believe both genders are equally to blame for the shithole we've made this planet.


At least we can agree on something.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Loki » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 02:49:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '
')I personally believe both genders are equally to blame for the shithole we've made this planet.


At least we can agree on something.


Hey now, lookee there. Kiss kiss, hug hug. Have we made up? [smilie=5brokenheart.gif]

Ayame, I suspect we both let our own preconceptions and assumptions get in the way of rational dialogue. For my part, I apologize. Don't let the ramblings of this bitter youngish fool ruin your day. :)
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Ayame » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 02:56:32

Of course we can make up!
[smilie=5grouphug.gif]

Group hug everyone!
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby rwwff » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 03:46:51

Crud...

Massive doomeristic day + excessive dose of cuteness.

Ouch.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Loki » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 04:06:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ayame', 'O')f course we can make up!
[smilie=5grouphug.gif]

Group hug everyone!


Cool. I was looking for a "cute" smiley like that but must have missed it.

And ignore rwwff. He's a grouchy old man. Bolt-actions better than semis....Ha! :P
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 12:30:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'C')rud...

Massive doomeristic day + excessive dose of cuteness.

Ouch.


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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby katkinkate » Sat 22 Jul 2006, 23:07:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'S')adly, this topic keeps attracting the strident ones


Its an emotive subject. Everyone argues from their own experience and pet peeves. It doesn't help that each individual has a different idea of what the words patriarchy, matriarchy, feminism, lesbian and various other words actually mean.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TheTurtle » Sun 23 Jul 2006, 07:55:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', ' ')It doesn't help that each individual has a different idea of what the words patriarchy, matriarchy, feminism, lesbian and various other words actually mean.


This thread (and the others of the same topic) prove your point about the first three words, but isn't the meaning of "lesbianism" pretty much cut and dry? :?
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby katkinkate » Mon 24 Jul 2006, 09:27:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', ' ')It doesn't help that each individual has a different idea of what the words patriarchy, matriarchy, feminism, lesbian and various other words actually mean.


This thread (and the others of the same topic) prove your point about the first three words, but isn't the meaning of "lesbianism" pretty much cut and dry? :?


Not really. The strict definition is (a woman who prefers other women for sexual partners). But too many people dump a lot of emotional/ sexist/political crap on top. There's a lot of opinion that lesbian also = man-hating, butch, feminazi, activist, strident, 'hairy legged' (as if thats a moral weakness). Look at all the adjectives that go with the term. It carries a lot of baggage.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TheTurtle » Mon 24 Jul 2006, 13:27:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katkinkate', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheTurtle', 'i')sn't the meaning of "lesbianism" pretty much cut and dry? :?


Not really ... It carries a lot of baggage.


Fair enough. I see your point.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Mon 24 Jul 2006, 13:28:19

You forgot carpet muncher in that list.
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