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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Loki » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 23:16:41

Ahh, the man hatred is strong in this thread. But I guess it's OK to express overt hostility towards men, but not so OK to suggest that some women might buy lots of shoes. :roll:

But sorry to interrupt. Let the hypocrisy continue.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 23:36:28

Loki if you want the fuller picture check out the topic in the hall of flames
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Wednesday » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 00:05:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'A')hh, the man hatred is strong in this thread. But I guess it's OK to express overt hostility towards men, but not so OK to suggest that some women might buy lots of shoes. :roll:

But sorry to interrupt. Let the hypocrisy continue.


Only a simpleton would think this thread is about shoes.

Hypocrisy, indeed...
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Loki » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 00:20:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', '
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Only a simpleton would think this thread is about shoes.

Hypocrisy, indeed...


Yes, the typical feminist response. Emotion-driven personal attacks trump rational argument. No suprise there. I've met far too many of your type. So predictable.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Zardoz » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 02:24:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', '
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Only a simpleton would think this thread is about shoes.

Hypocrisy, indeed...


Yes, the typical feminist response. Emotion-driven personal attacks trump rational argument. No suprise there. I've met far too many of your type. So predictable.


What a crock of typical misogynist shit.

As if any of you jerks were anything else but classic woman-haters. You're all as transparent as a pane of glass...
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Loki » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 02:47:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', '
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Only a simpleton would think this thread is about shoes.

Hypocrisy, indeed...


Yes, the typical feminist response. Emotion-driven personal attacks trump rational argument. No suprise there. I've met far too many of your type. So predictable.


What a crock of typical misogynist shit.

As if any of you jerks were anything else but classic woman-haters. You're all as transparent as a pane of glass...


Thanks for proving my point.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Doly » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 05:32:05

You are taking yourselves to the Hall of Flames there...
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 11:22:30

Who said they are woman hater? Maybe they love women but are into S&M.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby holmes » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 12:28:20

the women hater labels are misguided, delusional, illiterate, outdated, absent of all truth. Denial and Borg like collective thinking. The machine has consumed the brain and body. Please detach from the machine and look at yourslef in the mirror. Observe your surroundings and maybe take off into the desert for a week or so. Only drink water and eat what u find.
Its obvious many need detoxification and an internal cleansing program. Highly toxic delusional ideas on what women hate and such is.
It is so far form the truth that I am a women hater its beyond description to me. This is called compassion. The machines form of compassion is suicide. passive genocide. Im ashamed at the genral population of men and women. U labelers are making my doom level rise ten fold.
eat me with the women hater thing. Get a clue.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 21:31:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', '
')Only a simpleton would think this thread is about shoes.
But it is! This anecdotal of course, but I asked a young waitress once what she looks at on the internet and she said shoes. It's all about the shoes.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Tue 27 Jun 2006, 23:24:33

You know, I prefer going barefooted myself.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PhebaAndThePilgrim » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 09:03:51

Good day from Pheba, from the farm:
Seems to me that both sides are purchasing much more than ever before. Men purchase different items than women. My husband hates buying anything. He is extremely frugal.
I, on the other hand, love stuff, but temper my purchases because of my awareness of higher issues.
I purchase clothing second hand, and just as much other stuff as I can second hand. I own about the same number of shoes as my husband.
His weakness is coats. Being a farmer, that makes sense.
My weakness is books.
My kids are a different story. The son-in-law purchases dollar for dollar, just as much as my daughter. The difference is that she buys a lot of "little stuff", while he buys high dollar items.
There is an old joke: A woman only shops at Wal-Mart for two things; one is shampoo, the other is: "I'll know it when I see it".
I believe there is a great truth behind this joke.
Shopping has become a balm to ease the subconscious awareness of where we are headed.
Shopping is a drug that quiets the sense of "dis-ease" that people are feeling.
The MIchael Moore film, "Bowling for Columbine" contains a scene that I just adore. Moore is interviewing Marilyn Manson to get Manson's opinion on the theory that Manson's music is causing a lot of our violence.
Manson said something that rocked my world. He said (don't quote me, I need to rewatch the film) something to the effect that: The fear feeds the consumption.
I believe the massive consumption nightmare we are involved in comes from fear, plain and simple.
I believe that women are more involved in this emotional pattern than many of them want to admit.
Many men are involved for the same reason.
I volunteer at a local thrift shop that is connected to the local food bank. I do this work in a town that has shipped all of the major industry overseas. There are over 1,000 empty homes sitting in this small town. Present population is about 11 thousand, and the town board is giving 1,000.00 gifts to anybody that moves from out of town into town.
The amount of stuff that still gets donated to our thrift shop is mind boggling. We are not the only thrift shop in town. There is also a shop for the handicapped, and they are ten times larger than we are.
Still, the stuff just keeps pouring in. Clothing, dishes, knick knacks, toys, books, etc. etc. etc.
Our larger town, which is 26 miles away has two Goodwill stores and two Salvation Army stores, just filled to the brim with stuff.
Stuff that is being purchased out of fear and disposed of with no regret.
Maybe the coming Peak OIl scenario won't be a bad thing.
If we can keep from killing each other off, maybe, just maybe, once the smoke clears and the reality settles in, it will be a healing thing.
Who knows.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Wed 28 Jun 2006, 19:51:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Phebagirl', 'M')aybe the coming Peak OIl scenario won't be a bad thing.
If we can keep from killing each other off, maybe, just maybe, once the smoke clears and the reality settles in, it will be a healing thing.
Who knows.

Indeed.

The biggest problem I see is that we can't seem to keep the children from trying to run the farm --corporate self-interest being a primarily adolecent worldview-- and they've somehow managed to raid the armory. Some of those glow-in-the-dark-type weapons are not so nice.

Now, if responsible adults were about, I'd be a little more optimistic about the possibility of a minorly significant reduction in at least the degree of coming hardships. I've noticed tho' that unfortunately, they seem persistently absent.

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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 00:47:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', ' ')
Oh and welcome to the He Man Woman Hater's Club Phebagirl!
I've never really seen it as a matter of Women Haters. To me it's just a matter of harmony. Yin and Yang. When the Yin and Yang lose their boundaries you get a void.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 09:36:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'I')'ve never really seen it as a matter of Women Haters. To me it's just a matter of harmony. Yin and Yang. When the Yin and Yang lose their boundaries you get a void.


(*Pssst* It was a joke PMS. Always wanted an excuse to use those wrestler smilies... :lol: )

That whole Woman Hater thing appears to largely be a projection of feminist self-loathing as far as I can tell. Typical of the 'perpetual child' mindset we foster in this culture...
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 29 Jun 2006, 13:13:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '
')(*Pssst* It was a joke PMS. Always wanted an excuse to use those wrestler smilies... :lol: )
Oh. 8) Better watch out with the "self-loathing" talk, or somebody might start screaming at you. I mean it! :razz:
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 03:16:41

Buy everything you want, I only buy vintage things because I hate the modern world. I bought vintage baseball gloves, old boxing gloves, Babe Ruth Pics, 3 old phones, 2 typewriters, 1 old adding machine, 4 persian rugs, old office stamps this week. you should see my shop it is like the 1800s and I live in the back. I am living, because we are dying. I have surrounded myself in the past and everyone who enters my world. You should see the joy on their faces, its worth it just for the smiles.

Next week I am going to buy an old phone booth (pickup only) 1920s boxing gloves, old tin toys and a barrel of laughs.

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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 04:51:35

I used to sit on the floor and watch my ex husband shave, I loved it. So here is one I just wrote for you guys.

The Shave


seated on the floor
watching you master
what I have never tried
the brush
razor in motion
masculine drama with
supreme skill
the bravado
and dance

you glance at me
through a rear view mirror
i am breathless
…man
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby robski » Fri 30 Jun 2006, 11:52:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')oo bad more people don't realize that genuine spiritual practice (as distinct from religion) is firmly based in scientific method...



Twilliam, you are to ego-centric to be talking about anything spiritual. C'mon you are making me ashamed to be a male here.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 02 Jul 2006, 10:14:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('robski', 'T')william, you are to ego-centric to be talking about anything spiritual. C'mon you are making me ashamed to be a male here.


Mmm hmm. And you're the Dhali Lama right? :roll:

"Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water."

Translation? You can't judge a person's level of awareness by their words or actions (popular mythology regarding the issue notwithstanding). Ego sees only itself when looking upon the world yet calls it another.

"Physician, heal thyself."

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