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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 12:51:33

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You want to know why I'm so pissed?

Ok first there was the thread by Aaron blaming Peak Oil on women the cause of peak oil
Then there was the matriarchy/patriarchy male digging at women as the main cause of greed/progress/ponzi schemeing etc m & p thread

Now there is this thread, all in a couple of weeks.

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Relax a month or so ago there were alot of Wack a Christian threads. I'm sure these things are on a cycle and it just the womens turn this season. Who knows maybe our wives and girlfriends aren't wearing sexy swimsuits and its making us grumpy.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 15:00:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'R')eally? I thought that masculine ethic was all about competition which holds well with our current 'free market competition' western culture.


Competition has nothing to do with gender. Women are every bit as competitive as men; it merely manifests differently.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')en collect junk and revel in materialism too so how can it be a purely feminine trait? No wonder I can't understand a word you are saying, mainly because I don't subscribe to that ying yang stuff. I mean have men got a masculine copyright on spirituality or something? I dont' think so.


Men and women encompass both masculine and feminine traits; neither is exclusively one or the other. And fortunately reality is marvelously indifferent to human beliefs (or lack thereof). Anyway I have no interest in attempting to compress millennia of awareness into a few paragraphs. Suffice to say that these are neither new nor radical understandings; they eventually become self-evident to anyone who's ever been engaged in any genuine spiritual practice for any length of time...
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Raxozanne » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 15:51:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', ' ')Suffice to say that these are neither new nor radical understandings; they eventually become self-evident to anyone who's ever been engaged in any genuine spiritual practice for any length of time...


Yeah that's why I can't understand, I don't do spiritualism, I do science and darwinism, it explains far more of everything in life in my opinion. If everyone is a little bit of something and gendre is irrelevent then I really don't see how masculine and feminine traits can be labelled as such.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 19:34:49

It would be an interesting project to name male and female traits.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AAAS', 'G')ender, often said to depend solely upon anatomy or hormones, may depend also on hard-wired genetics, according to new research that could help doctors and lawyers better understand the one in 4,000 babies born with both male and female traits.

"The biology of gender is far more complicated than XX or XY chromosomes and may rely more on the brain's very early development than we ever imagined," researcher Eric Vilain, M.D., reported today at the AAAS Annual Meeting in Washington, D.C.

http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2005/0218gender.shtml

The nonfiction writer George Gilder created quite a fuss on the Oprah TV show when he said that the role of women is to civilize men, sort of like when Holmes said "you tame the beast" in a reflexive but fruitless attempt to molify your temper, Rax. We have seen here that the male/female role issue is confused and in flux these days. The Chinese knew what they were about when they made their curse, "may you live in interesting times". You and some of the others here may wish for a world with no male and female at all, a unisex paradise, but that is impossible and even the attempt to reach it is a sign of our demoralized times. You can only expect a backlash against this form of neuroses when times get hard.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 20:51:05

Geez you people are really controlling. You get all mad when someone has an opion. You really should chill out :lol:
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 21:05:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Luckystars', 'G')eez you people are really controlling. You get all mad when someone has an opion. You really should chill out :lol:
you talkin' to me? hm? Paternal doesn't mean controlling. Not in enlightenend circles. Paternal means humor and sagacity. And the sense to know when which is needed.
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Unread postby WildRose » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 22:36:33

In my home, I'm the one who tries to relieve clutter by sneaking objects into garbage bags or good will boxes. I told my husband he better not leave this earth before I do, because I don't know WHAT I would do with the stuff in the garage!
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Raxozanne » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 03:54:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', ' ')attempt to molify your temper, Rax.


Yeah well I'd challenge you to not get upset when dealing with threads attempting to blame all social evil upon your gendre. With more and more of your fanclub weighing in every day to try and confirm that women are scum. Seriously don't enjoy visiting peakoil.com anymore. Wouldn't endorse it to any of my female friends now.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Raxozanne » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 04:10:33

In fact I'm out of here.
I'll let you get on with your male mental masturbations in peace.
So you can chaulk a female off the board cos I'm through here.
You think it's all in good fun, yeah well maybe for you.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 11:43:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'Y')eah that's why I can't understand, I don't do spiritualism, I do science and darwinism, it explains far more of everything in life in my opinion.


Too bad more people don't realize that genuine spiritual practice (as distinct from religion) is firmly based in scientific method...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')eah well I'd challenge you to not get upset when dealing with threads attempting to blame all social evil upon your gendre. With more and more of your fanclub weighing in every day to try and confirm that women are scum.


Jeez. Who the hell was blaming anyone for anything? All I said was that materiality is a feminine ethic, not a masculine one; I made no judgements about it one way or the other. And I happen to like women, especially my wife...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n fact I'm out of here.
I'll let you get on with your male mental masturbations in peace.
So you can chaulk a female off the board cos I'm through here.
You think it's all in good fun, yeah well maybe for you.


*shakes head sadly*

Typical. "You're not playing the way I want, so I'll call you names and run away."
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 12:30:22

I read your statements as; now that it has turned to shit it is a feminine system. Men hoard MONEY because they know money is power, they don't want to let go of it. When your wife spends money it pisses you off and you post shit about her on the internet.
Capitalism has failed even your dollar is worth 40% less, than it was a few years ago.

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10 yrs ago I was in southern Italy to visit my father in law, who has never driven a car, grows his own food, makes his own olive oil and wine, He has a well with a snake in it, he pulls the water up with a bucket to water his garden and trades the neighbors for what else he needs. I bought so many clothes which I could not fit in the suitcase, so I left a pair of sandals there. When I went back 2 yrs later I saw my sandals stained with red clay from the earth he farms. He wore my shoes in the garden, my abandon feminine shoes helped to bring forth the fruits of the earth. What a divine vision that was
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby rwwff » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 14:09:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Luckystars', 'I') read your statements as; now that it has turned to shit it is a feminine system. Men hoard MONEY because they know money is power, they don't want to let go of it. When your wife spends money it pisses you off and you post shit about her on the internet.
Capitalism has failed even your dollar is worth 40% less, than it was a few years ago.


Who's pissed?? We're having fun down here. You don't sound like you're having fun though.

And why should I care about how low the dollar goes, the lower it goes, the more competitive our products are overseas, including in Europe. Only if I was holding dollars in a cash account would I be particularly concerned about the dollar falling. Fortunately for us, and not so fortunately for them, most Americans hold more dollar denominated debt than they hold dollar denominated assets. The assets that were acquired with those dollar denominated debts are mostly fixed or economically productive (land, buildings, shop equipment, trucks, cars, trains, and planes, etc). Dollar slides... Assets remain; the increased revenues acquired from the exported products then come back to service an intrinsically shrinking debt.

I admit that it is a ruthless strategy.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Sun 25 Jun 2006, 15:41:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Luckystars', 'I') read your statements as; now that it has turned to shit it is a feminine system. Men hoard MONEY because they know money is power, they don't want to let go of it. When your wife spends money it pisses you off and you post shit about her on the internet.

If you're referring to me, then you read incorrectly; money has never been a motivator to me personally, and if it weren't damned near essential in this culture I would have absolutely zero interest in it's acquisition. As far as my wife's spending, it doesn't bother me in the least, because she is one of those rare women who focus on practicality rather than ornamentation; she doesn't have a closet full of "once-a-year-wear" with matching shoes and other such superfluous crap.

And once again someone infers blame when none was placed...
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 01:00:30

My father in law was a very wise person.
He never wanted to visit Roma or Milano, there was nothing to see in his view. He just wanted to live and farm his land and tend his olive trees. I used work on his land for vacation and pull the water out of the well. He took me to see a rose he planted, "rosa bella" he said. If we all lived as he did, the oil would be spouting out of the earth there would be so much. He lived a beautifully simple life, awash with the hues of peace and beauty, he never tried to be anything more than a caretaker of the earth.

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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 11:40:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Luckystars', 'M')y father in law was a very wise person.
He never wanted to visit Roma or Milano, there was nothing to see in his view. He just wanted to live and farm his land and tend his olive trees. I used work on his land for vacation and pull the water out of the well. He took me to see a rose he planted, "rosa bella" he said. If we all lived as he did, the oil would be spouting out of the earth there would be so much. He lived a beautifully simple life, awash with the hues of peace and beauty, he never tried to be anything more than a caretaker of the earth.


A man after my own heart it seems. Tho' I'd probably prefer apples and pears to olives... :wink:
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 14:31:57

Why Is she taking this personally? I haven't left this board dispite the fact that there have been topics blaming Whites, Chrisitans, Americans for our current situation? I take what I can from them or I ignore them. It's not like the topic is "Why Raxxy killed the Mother Earth?"
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Wednesday » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 18:49:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'I')n fact I'm out of here.


Congratulations, assholes.

Rax, take a breather. Don't throw away useful forums simply because the open forums are full of idiocy. Do what I do, hang out in Preparing for the Future or another on-topic forum for a while. You don't want to sever connections with a useful source of information.

When the bullshit gets too thick, I just head for the on-topic forums. Join me, if you like.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 19:13:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wednesday', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'I')n fact I'm out of here.


Congratulations, assholes.
Aaron started it. Anyway, she'll be back.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby holmes » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 19:27:14

Rax, dont do that to your women friends. You women need men like us. You just dont know it yet. Oil has allowed the illusions of granduer. Save their lives and get them tuned in! ASAP!
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Wednesday » Mon 26 Jun 2006, 20:06:19

Don't tell women what they need holmes. You obviously have no idea.
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