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The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 21:33:04

It is so insane and intense now because we are at the end of an age and a shift. Total ownership by these mega corporations, nothing is private or free. A world in chains, and not only women and children anymore it is everyone and everything. They won't win though, no way evolution wins if you can hang on till 2022 you will see it all in flames.
25,000 years ago the matriarchy was in full swing, with humanity bonded with nature and life, not in ownership. I'm not going to stay in the basement with my gun and gold, I am gonna say fuck it and enjoy right up to the last minute! I do love that they will lose, the cosmic laugh. [smilie=qgreenjumpers.gif]
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 21:56:29

Why figt it? [smilie=adora.gif] [smilie=female.gif]
Because I started out as one of these. [smilie=XXspermy.gif]
Was a long and dark December
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 22 Jun 2006, 22:42:08

All hail Abraham and Isaac Hayes. Nothing ever stays the same.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 09:46:19

I would humbly suggest looking a lot deeper. The "Matriarchal Paradise of the Past" is largely an eco-feminist fantasy, as is the idea that modern western culture is a patriarchy. The material acquisition paradigm that drives our entire corporate culture is a manifestation of the Feminine; it's no coincidence that the words material, matter and mother all stem from the same root. Ask any male who's ever moved his family how much space in the truck goes for his stuff versus how much for hers. :lol:

Try looking at the Middle East for a view of genuine patriarchy...
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby SoothSayer » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 09:52:41

Ask any male who's ever moved his family how much space in the truck goes for his stuff versus how much for hers...

Joking aside, that's exactly right. This applies right across the board.

(I'm not saying it's a problem ... just a fact of life)
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 11:00:58

It is not about male or female it's about value systems. If your wife owns a lot of junk, she is invested in patriarchal values. Native American culture was a prime example of the matriarchy.

Corporations in theory are cooperative are based on a feminine principal of shared resources, but it just don't play that way. Ask the CEO of Exxon.

Just wait we are going back to that, if you and your wife do survive the grand chaos she won't have much crap and you won't have to bitch about it.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 20:29:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Luckystars', 'I')f your wife owns a lot of junk, she is invested in patriarchal values.

Um, no, she's not. "Nest-feathering" among humans is a female trait. In my 43+ years, I have yet to meet a dedicated bachelor who lives in a 2500+ square foot house stuffed to the gills with crap. And almost without exception any family man who gets divorced is more than happy to let the woman have the house and most of what's in it (the exception being those who keep it out of spite). Why? Because they don't give a shit about it . Generally, if it's not something immediately practical such as tools, entertainment equipment (tv stereo etc) or transportation, we're not interested. Men are acquisitive only insofar as it enables them to attract a mate/sexual partner(s); beyond that, we could care less about surrounding ourselves with "stuff".
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby rwwff » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 22:39:01

It all boils down to shoes.

How many shoes does he have.
How many shoes does she have.

That answer tells you everything you need to know.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Atlantean_Relic » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 22:41:03

And Humanity Goes extinct because the only survivors were a PO man and PO woman.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby JoeCoal » Fri 23 Jun 2006, 23:22:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'I')t all boils down to shoes. How many shoes does he have. How many shoes does she have.
That answer tells you everything you need to know.

He Has == 5 pairs. She Has == A whole closet to themselves. [smilie=laughing4.gif]
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 02:27:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'I')t all boils down to shoes. How many shoes does he have. How many shoes does she have. That answer tells you everything you need to know.

I'm still putting glue in the soles of my cracked-soles brown dress shoes. My tennis shoes are fragmenting to the point where I will have to break down and buy some more.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Raxozanne » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 03:27:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'I') would humbly suggest looking a lot deeper. The "Matriarchal Paradise of the Past" is largely an eco-feminist fantasy, as is the idea that modern western culture is a patriarchy. The material acquisition paradigm that drives our entire corporate culture is a manifestation of the Feminine; it's no coincidence that the words material, matter and mother all stem from the same root. Ask any male who's ever moved his family how much space in the truck goes for his stuff versus how much for hers. :lol:

Try looking at the Middle East for a view of genuine patriarchy...


Yeah it's all women fucking fault.
Hmmm you know what? My male friends earn alot more money than me because they are male and you know what they do with it? They buy a mini cooper, then they buy the best stereo system, the best mobile phone (every other month) and the best plasma screen tv. They also eat out every other night. But I guess they are not really consuming 'because it's practical stuff', no let's blame the whole captialism thing on women.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Raxozanne » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 03:32:23

Here I found a group you can all join so you can bash women together. Go on, make those masculine male alliances so you can put us women back in our place!

Here you go:

Women are Evil

Have fun now guys! And don't show any mercy, afterall us women are the spawn of satan, responsible for almost every evil going down on earth. If it wasn't for us Peak Oil wouldn't be happening or capitalism. I mean if you try hard enough I'm sure you could find a reason to blame us for rape even.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby rwwff » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 03:44:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'H')ere I found a group you can all join so you can bash women together. Go on, make those masculine male alliances so you can put us women back in our place!


Since you used the "all" to lump me and everyone on the planet into this group of accused bashomatics, I must protest.

One person suggested that women who buy stuff were being lured by patriarchy.

Another responded by a reference to a book about a myth of something.

Followed shortly by someone noticing that women more volume of stuff than guys.

I posted what I think is the funniest extreme of this phenomenon.

Shoes.

I don't object to my wife buying shoes for whatever purpose she uses them for, as long as I don't get beat on for wearing the same pair of tennis shoes, every day, every where, with everything, till they fall off my feet.

Lighten up. I don't think anyone is suggesting that Peak Oil is the fault of women. Personally, I couldn't care less whose fault it is. Its still funny that women by as many shoes as they do. And its ok that it is funny.

Guys buy more gadgets, and I have it on good authority that many women find this practice quite rediculous. Just as my wife has shoes that she's worn only once. I have gadgets that have never left the safety of the backyard. They're still fun; and I'm sure her shoes are... well... whatever it is that shoes are.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Raxozanne » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 03:55:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rwwff', 'L')ighten up. I don't think anyone is suggesting that Peak Oil is the fault of women. Personally, I couldn't care less whose fault it is. Its still funny that women by as many shoes as they do. And its ok that it is funny.

You want to know why I'm so pissed? Ok first there was the thread by Aaron blaming Peak Oil on women: the cause of peak oil
Then there was the matriarchy/patriarchy male digging at women as the main cause of greed/progress/ponzi schemeing etc m & p thread

Now there is this thread, all in a couple of weeks. IM NOT EXACTLY FEELING THE LOVE HERE!
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby rwwff » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 04:08:49

Jingle goes off in head...

Whats love got to do with it.....

No really, its a forum. And a highly contentious one at that. And half the people here seriously think the world is about to go splat.

Think of it as a great way to practice your stress management.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 07:48:17

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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Luckystars » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 07:50:34

Women have more shoes because they are conditioned to wear glamour shoes from childhood and they are uncomfortable.

Peak Oil is the result of the industrial revolution which began when Pluto entered Capricorn, it will return to Capricorn Jan 08, the end of the industrial revolution. And the Patriarchal world religions that tell people to have too many children. The public has been brainwashed by corporate media to be mad consumers, this is the source of happiness, shoes, mini coopers, cell phones. Material things are the source of happiness, when it wears off after you drive the car around the block you must shop again. All this will end as Pluto makes its journey through Capricorn.

PLUTO CAPRICORN-BIG BROTHER- WARS-SENDING YOUR CHILDREN TO DIE FOR GOVERNMENT OIL WARS-PATRIARCHY GONE MAD.

But it will be so intense along the way, scapegoating as Uranus and Neptune are in mutual reception. Worse than Hitlers Germany, way worse. Same values, different players.

The giant liquidation sale is in the planning next, everyone is going to get the lesson of releasing all that crap.
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby TWilliam » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 10:43:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raxozanne', 'Y')eah it's all women fucking fault.
Hmmm you know what? My male friends earn alot more money than me because they are male and you know what they do with it? They buy a mini cooper, then they buy the best stereo system, the best mobile phone (every other month) and the best plasma screen tv. They also eat out every other night. But I guess they are not really consuming 'because it's practical stuff', no let's blame the whole captialism thing on women.


I never said anything about anything being womens' fault, Raxozanne. My comments have nothing to do with blaming anyone for anything; I was simply pointing out that western culture is not patriarchal, "glass ceiling" notwithstanding. If one examines it closely, one begins to understand that it is based on a Feminine ethic, not a Masculine one. I'm speaking in terms now of the underlying energetic that suffuses and motivates our cultural functioning on the metaphysical level (think yin-yang here). The Divine Feminine is the creative aspect that produces material form, the Divine Masculine is what provides the energetic input for it to do so, and our gender roles reflect this. Thus we have men earning the money (energy - "He's such a good provider" - ) and women utilizing (spending - "She's such a good homemaker" - ) it, ostensibly to produce a safe and comfortable nest for the care and feeding of offspring.

As I already mentioned, it's no accident that the words matter and mother have common roots. The problems we face today are a result of the fact that we have developed a culture that is completely immersed in the Feminine ethic of materiality, with a nearly complete absence of the Masculine spiritual ethic to balance it. As I also indicated, the Middle Eastern cultures exhibit the reverse imbalance, thus their nearly complete disdain for all things material and feminine.

While it may appear that men are "running the show", it is a wholly Feminine energetic that drives their pursuits...
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Re: The end of the Patriarchy

Unread postby Raxozanne » Sat 24 Jun 2006, 11:55:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'I') never said anything about anything being womens' fault, Raxozanne. My comments have nothing to do with blaming anyone for anything; I was simply pointing out that western culture is not patriarchal, "glass ceiling" notwithstanding. If one examines it closely, one begins to understand that it is based on a Feminine ethic, not a Masculine one.


Really? I thought that masculine ethic was all about competition which holds well with our current 'free market competition' western culture.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')I'm speaking in terms now of the underlying energetic that suffuses and motivates our cultural functioning on the metaphysical level (think yin-yang here). The Divine Feminine is the creative aspect that produces material form, the Divine Masculine is what provides the energetic input for it to do so, and our gender roles reflect this. Thus we have men earning the money (energy - "He's such a good provider" - ) and women utilizing (spending - "She's such a good homemaker" - ) it, ostensibly to produce a safe and comfortable nest for the care and feeding of offspring.

As I already mentioned, it's no accident that the words matter and mother have common roots. The problems we face today are a result of the fact that we have developed a culture that is completely immersed in the Feminine ethic of materiality, with a nearly complete absence of the Masculine spiritual ethic to balance it. As I also indicated, the Middle Eastern cultures exhibit the reverse imbalance, thus their nearly complete disdain for all things material and feminine.

While it may appear that men are "running the show", it is a wholly Feminine energetic that drives their pursuits...


Men collect junk and revel in materialism too so how can it be a purely feminine trait? No wonder I can't understand a word you are saying, mainly because I don't subscribe to that ying yang stuff. I mean have men got a masculine copyright on spirituality or something? I dont' think so.
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