I was wearing white Levis jeans and that stain in my ass from the strawberry.
It told me it looked like red a shit! We had a few beer and then we went out and it was cold. And then he went home without his jacket! 
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Bastards!
Bastards!
by Schweinshaxe » Fri 09 Jun 2006, 19:17:46
As you may know I was in Finland once and this guy came up to me and told me to fuck off. I asked him why he said that and he said it was because of the oil. Expensive or not, the oil, it's not in Finland they have it, it's in Norway but I was like in Finland and they don't have any oil so I walked away. When I finally arrived I went down to the basement to see if I could find her but she was in Poland. Anyway, I was quite pissed off at that time so I went back to the apartment. The sleeping bag was exactly where I had left it so that wasn't a problem. And then I sat down... (problem starts)
I was wearing white Levis jeans and that stain in my ass from the strawberry. It told me it looked like red a shit! We had a few beer and then we went out and it was cold. And then he went home without his jacket!
I was wearing white Levis jeans and that stain in my ass from the strawberry.
It told me it looked like red a shit! We had a few beer and then we went out and it was cold. And then he went home without his jacket! Was soll das?
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Re: Bastards!
by holmes » Fri 09 Jun 2006, 19:25:43
"To crush the Cornucopians, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their women."
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Re: Bastards!
by Zardoz » Fri 09 Jun 2006, 19:42:52
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'h')ttp://www.spencersonline.com/images/spencers/products/processed/00597245.zoom.a.jpg
Or, alternately:
...or both. In any case, sounds like he's had a pretty good evening.
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Re: Bastards!
by holmes » Fri 09 Jun 2006, 20:02:53
LOL
Swein, Zardoz, Seldom, Aaron, falcon, Ibon, PMS, me, etc..
what a crew we got here. Hehe..
PO doesnt know what it is in for...
HEHE!
we might actually survive this debacle if the smoking spliffs and chugging rot gut doesnt kill us off.
Swein, Zardoz, Seldom, Aaron, falcon, Ibon, PMS, me, etc..
what a crew we got here. Hehe..
PO doesnt know what it is in for...
HEHE!
we might actually survive this debacle if the smoking spliffs and chugging rot gut doesnt kill us off.
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Re: Bastards!
by Free » Fri 09 Jun 2006, 20:13:13
I think it's not without reason that Schwein had Kurt Gödel as his avatar some time ago, genius and madman.
Speaking of Kurt Gödel, I just read his biography, and there is a very cool anecdote:
Gödel went for a hearing to get his US citizenship, and because he was a genius there should be no problem, because he practically knew the constitution and US laws by heart.
But no, because he was also a brilliant logician and a bit mad, he was very worried when he discovered what he called a fatal flaw in the US constitutional system.
His friend Einstein was very concerned that this could get him denied his US citizenship, if he uttered such doubts at the hearings, so he accompanied him there and tried to distract him from his alleged finding with some chatter.
Luckily the judge at the hearing was a good friend of Einstein, because when he asked Gödel if he thought that it was possible that the US turned into a dictatorship like Germany (this all took place in the 1940ies), Gödel answered: "Oh absolutely..."and started to elaborate. The judge soon noticed what he had stepped into, and cut him off.
It would be great to know what exactly the logical flaw was that Gödel thought he had discovered...
Speaking of Kurt Gödel, I just read his biography, and there is a very cool anecdote:
Gödel went for a hearing to get his US citizenship, and because he was a genius there should be no problem, because he practically knew the constitution and US laws by heart.
But no, because he was also a brilliant logician and a bit mad, he was very worried when he discovered what he called a fatal flaw in the US constitutional system.
His friend Einstein was very concerned that this could get him denied his US citizenship, if he uttered such doubts at the hearings, so he accompanied him there and tried to distract him from his alleged finding with some chatter.
Luckily the judge at the hearing was a good friend of Einstein, because when he asked Gödel if he thought that it was possible that the US turned into a dictatorship like Germany (this all took place in the 1940ies), Gödel answered: "Oh absolutely..."and started to elaborate. The judge soon noticed what he had stepped into, and cut him off.
It would be great to know what exactly the logical flaw was that Gödel thought he had discovered...
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Re: Bastards!
by PenultimateManStanding » Fri 09 Jun 2006, 23:34:41
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('holmes', 'L')OL
Swein, Zardoz, Seldom, Aaron, falcon, Ibon, PMS, me, etc..
what a crew we got here. Hehe..
PO doesnt know what it is in for...
HEHE!
we might actually survive this debacle if the smoking spliffs and chugging rot gut doesnt kill us off.
Swein, Zardoz, Seldom, Aaron, falcon, Ibon, PMS, me, etc..
what a crew we got here. Hehe..
PO doesnt know what it is in for...
HEHE!
we might actually survive this debacle if the smoking spliffs and chugging rot gut doesnt kill us off.
I wonder if Schwein knows about milk thistle extract - the wonder tonic for cleaning up the liver.-
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Re: Bastards!
by Wednesday » Sun 11 Jun 2006, 15:48:33
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', '
')Gödel went for a hearing to get his US citizenship....
...he was very worried when he discovered what he called a fatal flaw in the US constitutional system.
It would be great to know what exactly the logical flaw was that Gödel thought he had discovered...
')Gödel went for a hearing to get his US citizenship....
...he was very worried when he discovered what he called a fatal flaw in the US constitutional system.
It would be great to know what exactly the logical flaw was that Gödel thought he had discovered...
No one knows? I would like to know what Godel saw.
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Re: Bastards!
by Schweinshaxe » Sun 11 Jun 2006, 18:00:23
OK, I did a little bit of googling and found this:
But Gödel's research into time travel was interrupted by his citizenship hearing, scheduled for December 5 in Trenton. His character witnesses were to be his close friends Albert Einstein and game theory co-inventor Oskar Morgenstern, who also served that day as his chauffeur. Being a fastidious man, Gödel decided to make a close study of American political institutions in preparation for the exam. On the eve of the hearing, he called Morgenstern in a state of agitation. He had found a logical inconsistency in the Constitution, he said. Morgenstern was amused by this, but he realized that Gödel was deadly serious. He urged him not to mention the matter to the judge, fearing it would jeopardize his citizenship bid.
On the short drive to Trenton the next day, Einstein and Morgenstern tried to distract Gödel with jokes. When they arrived at the court, the judge, Philip Forman, was impressed by Gödel's eminent witnesses, and he invited the trio into his chambers. After some small talk, he said to Gödel, "Up to now you have held German citizenship." No, Gödel corrected, Austrian. "Anyhow," continued the judge, "it was under an evil dictatorship...but fortunately that's not possible in America."
"On the contrary, I know how that can happen," cried Gödel, and he began to explain how the Constitution might permit such a thing to occur. The judge, however, indicated that he was not interested, and Einstein and Morgenstern succeeded in quieting the examinee down. A few months later, Gödel took his oath of citizenship. Writing to his mother back in Vienna, he commented that "one went home with the impression that American citizenship, in contrast to most others, really meant something."
For those of us who have never read the Constitution all the way through, this anecdote cannot but be disturbing. What was the logical flaw that Gödel believed he had descried in the document? Could the Founding Fathers have inadvertently left open a legal door to fascism? And what if Pat Buchanan found out about it?
It should be remembered that while Gödel was supremely logical, he was also supremely paranoid and not a little naive. There was something sweetly Pnin-like about him. He believed in ghosts; had a morbid dread of refrigerator gases; pronounced the pink flamingo his hoydenish wife placed outside his window furchtbar herzlich ("awfully charming"); and was convinced, based on nose measurements he had made on a newspaper photo, that General MacArthur had been replaced by an imposter. His paranoia, though, was decidedly tragic. "Certain forces" were at work in the world "directly submerging the good," he believed.
So was the contradiction in the Constitution, or was it in Gödel's head? I decided to ask Laurence Tribe. Besides teaching at Harvard Law School, Tribe also had a knack for algebraic topology in his undergraduate days.
"It's unlikely that Gödel could have found anything of the form P and not-P in the Constitution," Tribe told me. "What might have bothered him, though, was Article V, which places almost no substantive constraints on how the Constitution can be amended. He could have interpreted this to mean that, as long as an amendment is proposed and approved in the prescribed way, it automatically becomes part of the Constitution, even if it would eliminate the essential features of a republican form of government and obliterate virtually all the protections of human rights.
"But if I'm correct," Tribe continued, "Gödel's concern rested on something of a non sequitur. The idea that any constitution could so firmly entrench a set of basic rights and principles as to make them invulnerable to orderly repudiation is unrealistic. Nations like India that purport to make certain basic principles unamendable have in no sense experienced greater fidelity to human rights or democracy than has the United States."
A couple of other legal scholars I spoke to concurred with Tribe that Article V must have been what was vexing Gödel. But the mystery of whether he found something genuinely kinky in the Constitution remains a bit like the mystery of whether Fermat really had a "marvelous proof" of his last theorem. How I wish I had been the judge at that citizenship hearing. Imagine being presented with the opportunity to lean forward, look this overwrought genius in the eye, and say, "Surely you must be joking, Mr. Gödel."
From this site
I guess no one really knows what it was he had found...
I like this though: "Certain forces" were at work in the world "directly submerging the good," he believed.
I think he's still posting in the 9/11 threads here at PO.com from the Afterworld...
But Gödel's research into time travel was interrupted by his citizenship hearing, scheduled for December 5 in Trenton. His character witnesses were to be his close friends Albert Einstein and game theory co-inventor Oskar Morgenstern, who also served that day as his chauffeur. Being a fastidious man, Gödel decided to make a close study of American political institutions in preparation for the exam. On the eve of the hearing, he called Morgenstern in a state of agitation. He had found a logical inconsistency in the Constitution, he said. Morgenstern was amused by this, but he realized that Gödel was deadly serious. He urged him not to mention the matter to the judge, fearing it would jeopardize his citizenship bid.
On the short drive to Trenton the next day, Einstein and Morgenstern tried to distract Gödel with jokes. When they arrived at the court, the judge, Philip Forman, was impressed by Gödel's eminent witnesses, and he invited the trio into his chambers. After some small talk, he said to Gödel, "Up to now you have held German citizenship." No, Gödel corrected, Austrian. "Anyhow," continued the judge, "it was under an evil dictatorship...but fortunately that's not possible in America."
"On the contrary, I know how that can happen," cried Gödel, and he began to explain how the Constitution might permit such a thing to occur. The judge, however, indicated that he was not interested, and Einstein and Morgenstern succeeded in quieting the examinee down. A few months later, Gödel took his oath of citizenship. Writing to his mother back in Vienna, he commented that "one went home with the impression that American citizenship, in contrast to most others, really meant something."
For those of us who have never read the Constitution all the way through, this anecdote cannot but be disturbing. What was the logical flaw that Gödel believed he had descried in the document? Could the Founding Fathers have inadvertently left open a legal door to fascism? And what if Pat Buchanan found out about it?
It should be remembered that while Gödel was supremely logical, he was also supremely paranoid and not a little naive. There was something sweetly Pnin-like about him. He believed in ghosts; had a morbid dread of refrigerator gases; pronounced the pink flamingo his hoydenish wife placed outside his window furchtbar herzlich ("awfully charming"); and was convinced, based on nose measurements he had made on a newspaper photo, that General MacArthur had been replaced by an imposter. His paranoia, though, was decidedly tragic. "Certain forces" were at work in the world "directly submerging the good," he believed.
So was the contradiction in the Constitution, or was it in Gödel's head? I decided to ask Laurence Tribe. Besides teaching at Harvard Law School, Tribe also had a knack for algebraic topology in his undergraduate days.
"It's unlikely that Gödel could have found anything of the form P and not-P in the Constitution," Tribe told me. "What might have bothered him, though, was Article V, which places almost no substantive constraints on how the Constitution can be amended. He could have interpreted this to mean that, as long as an amendment is proposed and approved in the prescribed way, it automatically becomes part of the Constitution, even if it would eliminate the essential features of a republican form of government and obliterate virtually all the protections of human rights.
"But if I'm correct," Tribe continued, "Gödel's concern rested on something of a non sequitur. The idea that any constitution could so firmly entrench a set of basic rights and principles as to make them invulnerable to orderly repudiation is unrealistic. Nations like India that purport to make certain basic principles unamendable have in no sense experienced greater fidelity to human rights or democracy than has the United States."
A couple of other legal scholars I spoke to concurred with Tribe that Article V must have been what was vexing Gödel. But the mystery of whether he found something genuinely kinky in the Constitution remains a bit like the mystery of whether Fermat really had a "marvelous proof" of his last theorem. How I wish I had been the judge at that citizenship hearing. Imagine being presented with the opportunity to lean forward, look this overwrought genius in the eye, and say, "Surely you must be joking, Mr. Gödel."
From this site
I guess no one really knows what it was he had found...
I like this though: "Certain forces" were at work in the world "directly submerging the good," he believed.
I think he's still posting in the 9/11 threads here at PO.com from the Afterworld...
Was soll das?
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Re: Bastards!
by Free » Mon 12 Jun 2006, 05:04:34
Thanks Schwein!
That's quite word for word like it's written in the biography (by John Dawson jr.).
Yes, Gödel was a madman, but the fascinating thing is that he was right quite often in his paranoia. And he would have felt at home at this forum!
For example, in the Nixon era, he said that the Dollar held it's worth in Europe only "through a conspiracy"!!
Of course this is totally right, after the abolishment of the gold standard, and the introduction of the Petrodollar...
In another case, he was convinced that the work of Leibniz was suppressed on purpose through centuries, and when his friend was sceptical, he went with him to the library and really spooked his friend with showing him a pattern of misrepresentation of the work of Leibniz...
That's quite word for word like it's written in the biography (by John Dawson jr.).
Yes, Gödel was a madman, but the fascinating thing is that he was right quite often in his paranoia. And he would have felt at home at this forum!
For example, in the Nixon era, he said that the Dollar held it's worth in Europe only "through a conspiracy"!!
Of course this is totally right, after the abolishment of the gold standard, and the introduction of the Petrodollar...
In another case, he was convinced that the work of Leibniz was suppressed on purpose through centuries, and when his friend was sceptical, he went with him to the library and really spooked his friend with showing him a pattern of misrepresentation of the work of Leibniz...
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Re: Bastards!
by holmes » Mon 12 Jun 2006, 12:04:45
now thats something I would like to know. the constitution and freedom is almost dead now. It had loopholes for sure.
Now what is this milk thistle. My liver could use some.
Im looking for a shroom for skunk trade?
Now what is this milk thistle. My liver could use some.
Im looking for a shroom for skunk trade?
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Re: Bastards!
by PenultimateManStanding » Mon 12 Jun 2006, 12:14:11
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Now what is this milk thistle. My liver could use some.
Im looking for a shroom for skunk trade?
Nutritional supplement/health stores like GNC sell it. The energy drink Rockstar has it in its formula, but best is a nutrition supplement capsule form. Google it for more info, holmes. Now what's this shroom for skunk trade? sounds illicit. Now what is this milk thistle. My liver could use some.
Im looking for a shroom for skunk trade?
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