[Kylon]

I have an idea for a unbelievably powerful weapon, which doesn't cause any physical damage to any machinery, any material goods, or land. But it kills all living things exposed to it. It takes hardly any resources to operate, and it's exceptionally easy to control. It's cost effective at killing, and has a very large range, and wide area effect. It also doesn't have any longterm negative side effects(such as radiation, or throwing up of dust or leaving long lasting toxic residue like agent orange) that other powerful weapons do.

I was thinking of selling this idea to the U.S government so that they could use it against our enemies, and actually deter Iran, Venezeula, and North Korea. As this weapon would both be more humane, and less politically harmful then conventional weapons. It could be used to clear enemies off their land, and take their resources, and as well, be used to deter enemies from developing nuclear weapons or doing just about anything we don't want them to do.

I have some ethical qualms about this idea, this weapon, and I haven't built one yet, as I don't intend on building WMDs without the government's permission. But this is just an extrapolation of another principle in science that I know about. I know I'm being vague, but I'd rather not have anyone else with this information(other than the government) that I cannot trust, or at least I want it to be secure from wackos like Islamic terrorist.


What do you think?

[Daculling]

I'd suggest you forget it and have a drink.

[eastbay]

I strongly urge you to post right here on this thread every detail about this new weapon of yours for the good of humanity. There are many very intelligent people here many of whom will offer a critical analysis. Free.

C'mon, let's see what ya got...

[Free]

I already have a name for that unbelievably powerful secret weapon, call it the mother of all bullshit.

[Kylon]

I might private message someone, but I'm not going to post it for all the world to see.

You don't understand how cheap one of these things can be made. They can be made with household supplies, and are reusable. On top of that, with a basic description of the idea, and how it works, any nutjob with half a brain could build one of these.

So let's see, its

- Easily constructable
- The Supplies are on the freemarket, and easily available
- It takes virtually no expertise to build one of these devices

Why would I possibly in my right mind would I post(where all can see) how this thing would work. I might private message Ludi, Aaron, or Matt Savinar, how this device would work(due to the fact I think they won't kill a whole bunch of people), but I don't know about alot of the other people.

[Zardoz]

Ah, go ahead and post all the details so everybody can make it. Think of all the problems that would be solved by everybody using it on everybody else. Every nation should have it, so we could settle things once and for all.

"Every living thing", huh? Cool. It's a shame you didn't have this doomsday device ready when this thread started. Think of all the posting that would've been saved:

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic10093.html

It's just what the world needs, and fast. C'mon, spill your guts and save the planet for the deep-sea life forms.

[Kylon]

I'm a tribalist, not a sadist.

I want my tribe(being my family, my close friends, my group, people with more commonalities than other people, people with my religion) to have power, even it if means that other tribes have to suffer.

I'm a U.S citizen, I want the U.S to do better then other countries. I want the U.S to have a better quality of life, and treat it's citizens better, and stop the system which feeds corporate parasites(which many corporations are good, but many are downright evil), but I'm not as concerned about other nations, other tribes, other peoples, as much, especially people who wish to do my tribe harm.

So no, I'm not for killing my own. I'm for making my tribe stronger, so it can make my life better, and everyone I care about lifes better, and so we can have absolute security, and crush our enemies with impunity.

Yes engineering a weapon of horrible destructive power is inherently evil, to some degree. But I must maintain my groups power.

[MattSavinar]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I') might private message someone, but I'm not going to post it for all the world to see.

You don't understand how cheap one of these things can be made. They can be made with household supplies, and are reusable. On top of that, with a basic description of the idea, and how it works, any nutjob with half a brain could build one of these.

So let's see, its

- Easily constructable
- The Supplies are on the freemarket, and easily available
- It takes virtually no expertise to build one of these devices

Why would I possibly in my right mind would I post(where all can see) how this thing would work. I might private message Ludi, Aaron, or Matt Savinar, how this device would work(due to the fact I think they won't kill a whole bunch of people), but I don't know about alot of the other people.

[Kylon]

When you say "I'd prefer if you do not", do you mean private message you about the weapon? Or do you mean post it for everyone to see?

I won't message you if you don't want me too, but I will if you want me too.

[OilsNotWell]

Smart choice, Matt.

Smells like a bit of a set-up to me. Anything and anyone connected to exchanging information with this guy is going to be suspect.

Or maybe he's just crazy. In any case, it's just bad news.

Kind of sad.

Yes, if you did conceive of such a thing, then it may not be invented again if you forgot it. So, perhaps you should forget it.

[SoothSayer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I') have an idea for a unbelievably powerful weapon, which doesn't cause any physical damage to any machinery, any material goods, or land. But it kills all living things exposed to it. It takes hardly any resources to operate, and it's exceptionally easy to control. It's cost effective at killing, and has a very large range, and wide area effect. It also doesn't have any longterm negative side effects(such as radiation, or throwing up of dust or leaving long lasting toxic residue like agent orange) that other powerful weapons do.

I was thinking of selling this idea to the U.S government so that they could use it against our enemies, and actually deter Iran, Venezeula, and North Korea. As this weapon would both be more humane, and less politically harmful then conventional weapons. It could be used to clear enemies off their land, and take their resources, and as well, be used to deter enemies from developing nuclear weapons or doing just about anything we don't want them to do.

I have some ethical qualms about this idea, this weapon, and I haven't built one yet, as I don't intend on building WMDs without the government's permission. But this is just an extrapolation of another principle in science that I know about. I know I'm being vague, but I'd rather not have anyone else with this information(other than the government) that I cannot trust, or at least I want it to be secure from wackos like Islamic terrorist.


What do you think?

[PolestaR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kylon', 'I') have an idea for a unbelievably powerful weapon, which doesn't cause any physical damage to any machinery, any material goods, or land. But it kills all living things exposed to it. It takes hardly any resources to operate, and it's exceptionally easy to control. It's cost effective at killing, and has a very large range, and wide area effect. It also doesn't have any longterm negative side effects(such as radiation, or throwing up of dust or leaving long lasting toxic residue like agent orange) that other powerful weapons do.

I was thinking of selling this idea to the U.S government so that they could use it against our enemies, and actually deter Iran, Venezeula, and North Korea. As this weapon would both be more humane, and less politically harmful then conventional weapons. It could be used to clear enemies off their land, and take their resources, and as well, be used to deter enemies from developing nuclear weapons or doing just about anything we don't want them to do.

I have some ethical qualms about this idea, this weapon, and I haven't built one yet, as I don't intend on building WMDs without the government's permission. But this is just an extrapolation of another principle in science that I know about. I know I'm being vague, but I'd rather not have anyone else with this information(other than the government) that I cannot trust, or at least I want it to be secure from wackos like Islamic terrorist.


What do you think?

[Falconoffury]

If it's not a chemical or biological weapon, it sounds like you have found an easy way to build a neutron weapon of some kind.

My advice is to find a way to hide your IP address or otherwise channel the information through untracable sources. Then try to release the information to as many people as possible. The more people have these devices, the better the world will be, for the same reason that Texas is such a polite place because of guns.

I don't think this guy has said enough for a government agency to track him down. Anybody can say what he has said so far.

[Schweinshaxe]

Thanks for the laugh Kylon!

Maybe I should have let the thread grow with a couple of posts first because it's really entertaining to read the retarded answers.

I've done the same thing in a few other forums and it's always funny when you can keep the thread alive for a longer period. I'm surprised to see that experienced forum users still fall for this little trick. You even got Savinar hooked!

Anyway it was a very good one!

[PenultimateManStanding]

Well, Tesla said you can split the world like a walnut if you keep setting off small charges at the same spot with a regularity to match a certain earth-resonance frequency. The trick is to know the resonance frequency, and I'm not telling it either, not even to Matt or Aaron or Monte, specially not them.

[Falconoffury]

Do it, Pen, do it. I dare ya!

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '�')��Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.”

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'D')o it, Pen, do it. I dare ya!

[Kylon]

I'm not interested mainly in killing people, I just want my country(and it's government) to be powerful enough to stop people from hurting my family and I.

I don't want to kill people, I just want my people to be safe.

I'm an American nationalist.

In fact, I'd probably give the idea to free to the government if they asked for it. I was just thinking that if I helped them come up with this weapon, then they might finance me to do other projects for them, and in the meantime, give me a facility that's got easy access to materials and information, oh and perhaps pay for my college(I'm a pre-engineering major currently).

and BTW, I don't think that the government is going to try and attack me, I mean why would they? I'm on their side, I want to see the U.S win. Now a country like Iran might hate my guts(which doesn't bother me, at all), but I don't think the U.S would.

As I said before, I haven't constructed one of these, I have just come up with the idea. Constructing WMD's is illegal without the proper permits, so I'm not going to build one of these or test it, without government approval. But, if the government ask, I'll tell, and when they protect the American people from foreign dangers with my weapon, and show the true power of the United States, I won't have a single regret, other then the fact that there wasn't a less horrible way to protect my nation.

What I'm physically constructing right now, what I'm physically working on, is an alternative power source, to provide energy for the United States, to try and mitigate this natural disaster. Which is why I had that post on selling power to the grid.

And if the SHTF, I'll be producing cellulose digesting bacteria, and cellulose fermentors, to produce food for the starving populace, by converting grass, non-toxic trees, and other non-toxic foliage, into easily digestable food. I'll turn the cellulose into beta glucose, via the production of cellulase, through the use of modified human intestinal bacteria, which would be modified through the use of cow intestinal bacteria.

My idea for that, is to take cow intestinal bacteria, grow in large quantities, kill some of it, then take some human intestinal bacteria, and put it in the same culture with the dead cow bacteria. Then add some cellulose products(grass, wood chips whatever), and the bacteria which happened to collect DNA from the dead cow intestinal bacteria, would have an evolutionary advantage over the other bacteria, as they could use cellulose as a food supply. Thus the culture would be made predominately of those bacteria, within time.

Then to increase the genetic purity of the bacteria, in order that it may be less likely to be rejected from the body, by the bodies immune system, I would grow the modified human bacteria, take some of it, and kill it. Repeat the same process of bacteria selection, forcing human intestinal bacteria to acquire cellulase gene complex.

Every time this process was repeated, the amount of cow intestinal bacteria DNA, would decrease, leading to human intestinal bacteria that were almost identical to regular human intestinal bacteria, with the exception of the production of cellulase, thus allowing the digestion of cellulose in humans, and in fermentors.

This would provide a ready supply of food for the human population, and protect us from the upcoming shortages.


Oh BTW, if a government agent wants this technology, please just send me an e-mail or something, I'll be glad to share the details(however do provide some sort of verification, I don't feel like handing out weapons tech to people I can't trust, I don't want an enemy to get this tech, and I don't want a foreign nationalist, who has interest counter to that of the U.S geopolitical interest).

In fact, I think I'll contact someone in the government, if they won't come to me.

[Kylon]

OH BTW- This weapon can also be used theoretically to stun enemies, and could be targetted as well.

So it doesn't need to be fatal. It could be used as a more humane way of temporally disabling and stunning the enemy, allowing them to live.

Of course, when it's used for this purpose, it's much, much less powerful.