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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', 'B')y the way what I have to share, in time, makes Dan Brown look like a fiction writer.
Well, howdy Raphael. Long time no trippy esoterica to ponder. I could never relate to the whole black hole/curved space-time/wave-particle duality spectrum of modern physics. In short, I realize that I can't really understand what they are saying unless I go to the trouble to familiarize myself with that kind of mathematical thinking. I've always gotten more from reading the less abstruse and mysterious science writing, anyway. The Pursuit Of Absolute Zero was a good read. The gap between normal thinking and top-flight advanced physics is wide and profound, but you go ahead and spin these fables. Cosmology and Cosmogony are not related.
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THE Stephen Hawking Thread (merged)
THE Stephen Hawking Thread (merged)
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Re: Hawking - Black Holes and Entropy
by 0mar » Sat 27 May 2006, 01:31:08
Don't feel bad. I'd say no one truly understands the wave-particle duality of modern quantum mechanics.
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Re: Hawking - Black Holes and Entropy
by PenultimateManStanding » Sat 27 May 2006, 01:37:04
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', '
')Don't feel bad. I'd say no one truly understands the wave-particle duality of modern quantum mechanics.
You're probably like me, I'd sure like to understand it. I respect what those guys did, the breakthrough physicists. But if Richard Feynman was perplexed, then I guess I don't have to feel so all alone.')Don't feel bad. I'd say no one truly understands the wave-particle duality of modern quantum mechanics.
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Re: Hawking - Black Holes and Entropy
by Novus » Sat 27 May 2006, 10:38:58
What do you mean nobody understands it? I understand it fine. Maybe this picture will help you understand it.
The verticle lines are Zero Point Energy currents of universe. The wavey horisantal lines are light waves. Both waves are one dimentianal energy. When they collide their energy squares and forms particles accourding to E = mc^2. This forms the fabric of space-time.
When an object exists in space-time it distorts the fabric around it such as this single atom.
The waves that make up the fabric of space time are constantly in motion and are constantly reflecting off the object. When the incoming waves collide with the refecting waves they form an electron. The energy of the two waves squares to form its mass.
Since the waves only collide at intervals they form a quantum leap of electrons reapearing and disapearing elections around an atoms nucleous. Heisenberg was wrong. They can be calculated cwith ertainty based on the reasonance of the waves. The first person to come up with the math for this concept is guarenteed a Nobel prize in physics.
The verticle lines are Zero Point Energy currents of universe. The wavey horisantal lines are light waves. Both waves are one dimentianal energy. When they collide their energy squares and forms particles accourding to E = mc^2. This forms the fabric of space-time.
When an object exists in space-time it distorts the fabric around it such as this single atom.
The waves that make up the fabric of space time are constantly in motion and are constantly reflecting off the object. When the incoming waves collide with the refecting waves they form an electron. The energy of the two waves squares to form its mass.
Since the waves only collide at intervals they form a quantum leap of electrons reapearing and disapearing elections around an atoms nucleous. Heisenberg was wrong. They can be calculated cwith ertainty based on the reasonance of the waves. The first person to come up with the math for this concept is guarenteed a Nobel prize in physics.
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Re: Hawking - Black Holes and Entropy
by Novus » Sat 27 May 2006, 12:45:39
Black holes rip the fabric of space time which prevents the collision of ZPE and light at the event horizon. Black holes are so small they fit between the space-time grid pictured above. Black holes have zero physical dimensions and likely lack a time dimension as well. These singularities are called back holes because they have seamingly fallen out of the universe. In time entropy will close the event hosizon through hawking radiation and the grid will be restored. The singularity itself having fallen through the grid will remain possibly forming its own universe.
To answer your question about using it on earth. I would say no. No energy is recovered from black holes through hawking radiation. See my thread on ZPE in the energy forum for more info on harnessing the power of the grid.
To answer your question about using it on earth. I would say no. No energy is recovered from black holes through hawking radiation. See my thread on ZPE in the energy forum for more info on harnessing the power of the grid.
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Re: Hawking - Black Holes and Entropy
by PenultimateManStanding » Sat 27 May 2006, 13:20:37
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', ' ')In time entropy will close the event hosizon through hawking radiation and the grid will be restored. The singularity itself having fallen through the grid will remain possibly forming its own universe.
Yes, the Multiverse Theory. Countless Universes not tangential to this one in the least, forming an infinite froth of worlds beyond all contact, endless. And Raphael, this is a cosmological meme. If you like cosmology, you could try reading Alan Guth's The Inflationary Universe. Your cosmogony seems to take the words of modern cosmology as symbols to be woven in with Goddesses and numerology.-
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Re: Hawking - Black Holes and Entropy
by frankthetank » Sat 27 May 2006, 14:42:55
I'm still trying to figure out "Donnie Darko".
Sometimes i feel like i'm living in a tangent universe.
Sometimes i feel like i'm living in a tangent universe.
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Re: Hawking - Black Holes and Entropy
by 0mar » Sat 27 May 2006, 18:56:05
Nope, still don't get it 
I hate quantum mechanics so much...
I hate quantum mechanics so much... Joseph Stalin
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Re: Is Steve Hawking Right or Wrong?
by basil_hayden » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 10:56:36
Time for your lithium, Raph.
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Re: Is Steve Hawking Right or Wrong?
by basil_hayden » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 11:16:24
I know what entropy is, and you increase it greatly with your clumsy attempts at assuring the rest of us that a keyboard in the hands of a mental patient is a safe thing.
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Re: Is Steve Hawking Right or Wrong?
by Zardoz » Fri 02 Jun 2006, 11:29:34
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Raphael', '.')..A simple truth revealed perhaps by counting the 4 fingers on one hand and with the other hand drawing swirling swastikas in the sand.
If it makes you feel better, fine. Whatever works for you. That's what it's all about, isn't it?
But, for God's sake, expecting anybody else to buy into it is pretty presumptuous. Come on...
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