[clueless]

The question is :

Will they win on appeal ? Or serve a cushy sentence in minimum security ?

[PrairieMule]

Get a rope and hang em' high..

I think Fastow got off way to easy for being the most crooked of Enron's Executives. His wife is the grandaughter of Mr. Weingarden Sr. They owned a large chain of grocery stores in Houston until the 1980's, so they still have a lot of money. I think he will pull a OJ simpson and move their assets to Florida and file Chapter 7.

[max_power29]

I would be happy if they made them pay back the money by doing what most jobs available are like: working at mcdonalds, with conditions like most people have, working on holidays, no health insurance etc. Minimum security prison for white collar criminals is not a good enough punishment to me. Working a sucky job is.

[pea-jay]

Nah, I say let them work higher paying jobs in the energy sector.

Like underground coal mining.

If they don't want that kind of risk, I'd be content to see Lay pumping gas at a 24hr service station here in Oregon or NJ.

Now that would be rich.

[Dreamtwister]

Turn the bastards over to the employees and customers they screwed.

[rwwff]

Definately an awesome accomplish for the Bush administration. Topping on the cake will be reading about them finally reporting to federal prison, hopefully they'll spend the rest of their miserable lives behind bars.

[tsakach]

As convicted felons, these bastards are part of the takedown of the criminal Bush administration by elites who bet the farm on the neocons and lost. Heard any comments from Bush? Nope. Puppet Bush has been ordered to stand down and let these bastards hang.

[NugBlazer]

I think they may be in for some long prison sentences. Bernie Ebbers got 25 years. These assholes are at least as bad as him.

[Lighthouse]

Send them to Guantanamo Bay for interrogation. They will reconsider the appeal and plea guilty within a couple of hours ...

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tsakach', 'A')s convicted felons, these bastards are part of the takedown of the criminal Bush administration by elites who bet the farm on the neocons and lost. Heard any comments from Bush? Nope. Puppet Bush has been ordered to stand down and let these bastards hang.

[tsakach]

The list of Enron people on the Bush administration payroll includes:

"Lawrence Lindsey*, your chief economic advisor? A former advisor at Enron! Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill*? Former CEO of Alcoa, whose lobbying firm, Vinson and Elkins, was the #3 contributor to the your campaign! Who is Vinson and Elkins? The law firm representing Enron! Who is Alcoa? The top polluter in Texas. Timothy White, the Secretary of the Army? A former vice-chair of Enron Energy! Robert B. Zoellick, your Federal Trade Representative? A former advisor at Enron! Karl Rove, your main man at the White House? He owned a quarter-million dollars of Enron stock.

"Then there's the Enron lawyer you have nominated to be a federal judge in Texas, the Enron lobbyist who is your chair of the Republican Party, the two Enron officials who now work for (former) House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, and the wife of Texas Senator Phil Gramm who sits on Enron's board. And there's the aforementioned Mr. Pitt (Harvey L. Pitt*), the former Arthur Andersen attorney whose job it is now as Securities and Exchange Commission head to oversee the stock markets."

"Your bag man -- Donald Evans, the man who squeezed all that money for you from Enron as your campaign finance chairman (and is now collecting his reward as your Commerce Secretary) -- has admitted that he got calls from Enron begging for help last year because they were going under. Didn't he tell you this?

"Then Paul O'Neill, your Treasury Secretary, admitted that Enron and Kenny Boy called him, too, for some special favors to save Enron. Didn't he mention this to you? They claim to have called your chief of staff, Andrew Card, and he said he didn't bother to inform you. What does your mother-in-law think about these boys her daughter's husband consorts with?"

"Kenny Boy has been your number one financial backer since you ran for governor. No other American or Saudi has given you more money than Kenny Boy and his gang at Enron. O'Neill, Evans, Cheney, Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham -- ALL of them gave Lay and Enron special favors from day one. The New York Times last May was so concerned about how Kenny had the run of the place (1600 Pennsylvania Ave.), they referred to Lay as the 'shadow advisor to the president.'"

Bush administration and the Enron connection

[rwwff]

Interesting how all these Enron guys involved, and not one could manage to get Bush to derail the investigation.

Take their money, and let'em hang. Sounds like good tactics to me.

[greenworm]

He tried, he blew up wtc 7 which housed much of the evidence.

[rwwff]

Ohhhhh! I see.

[Kingcoal]

Well, it's like musical chairs, these guys were the ones left standing when the music stopped. What cracks me up is how most people gladly jump onto the "hang them high" bandwagon. There are many, many, guilty parties when it comes to defrauding investors. There were thousends of other companies that did the same thing and when added together, dwarf Enron. People need to scapegoat someone, so here you are; put them in the stocks, spit in their face, blame all your pathetic little problems on them. Then go back to your own pathetic little life.

[rwwff]

How do you eat the elephant?

One bite at a time.

The Enron execs broke the law, it took years to collect the evidence and take it to court, but they got it done, and bagged the bad guys. Why is that not a good thing? Should we ignore the Enron guys simply because others managed to conceal their misdeeds with greater skill?

[Loki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'W')ell, it's like musical chairs, these guys were the ones left standing when the music stopped. What cracks me up is how most people gladly jump onto the "hang them high" bandwagon. There are many, many, guilty parties when it comes to defrauding investors. There were thousends of other companies that did the same thing and when added together, dwarf Enron. People need to scapegoat someone, so here you are; put them in the stocks, spit in their face, blame all your pathetic little problems on them. Then go back to your own pathetic little life.

[XOVERX]

Bush will eventually pardon Ken Lay. Probably Skilling too.

[tsakach]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'W')hat cracks me up is how most people gladly jump onto the "hang them high" bandwagon.

[rwwff]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('XOVERX', 'B')ush will eventually pardon Ken Lay. Probably Skilling too.