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THE North American Money Thread (merged)

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Is the Fed intentionally destroying the US dollar to speed the process of integration of the North American Union?

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THE North American Money Thread (merged)

Unread postby Pablo2079 » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 11:05:12

I've been thinking that the US will probably push for a single monetary unit for the Americas before the bottom falls out on the US dollar.
a) competes with the Euro
b) effectively locks in current exchange rates
c) insulates the US from the economic shock caused by other countries dumping their investments.
Not sure of the timing, but it seems like it should be soon. CAFTA may have been the first step towards it.
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Re: Single Monetary Unit for North and South America?

Unread postby gnm » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 11:07:45

"they" have already got it planned... Its called the "Amero" - probably be instituted after collapsing the US economically to better "even out" the economies...

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Re: Single Monetary Unit for North and South America?

Unread postby jaws » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 14:47:58

Now why would anyone trust the U.S. to run a currency after a dollar collapse? The idea would be dead before even taking off.
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Re: Single Monetary Unit for North and South America?

Unread postby gnm » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 15:25:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jaws', 'N')ow why would anyone trust the U.S. to run a currency after a dollar collapse?


Because they have a large military and nuclear weapons?
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Re: Single Monetary Unit for North and South America?

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 15:34:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jaws', 'N')ow why would anyone trust the U.S. to run a currency after a dollar collapse?

Because they have a large military and nuclear weapons?
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I think Canada and Mexico would quickly use the Amero.
It makes economic sense for them to because so much of their economic activity revolves around selling to the USA or buying from the USA.
Central America would be a pushover.
Argentina has a very stechy currency as it is, I'm sure they would jump on board too. Equador already uses dollars.
Brazil and Venezuela would probably fight it.
It might work.
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Re: Single Monetary Unit for North and South America?

Unread postby seldom_seen » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 15:49:30

Why stop with the Americas, why not a common currency for the world? The "Geo." "Hey man, can you spare a Geo so I can get something to eat?"

They better get started quick, oil depletion is going to put a stop to all this globalization homogenization nuttiness.
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Re: Single Monetary Unit for North and South America?

Unread postby MrBean » Wed 24 Aug 2005, 18:26:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jaws', 'N')ow why would anyone trust the U.S. to run a currency after a dollar collapse?

Because they have a large military and nuclear weapons?
:twisted:

I think Canada and Mexico would quickly use the Amero.
It makes economic sense for them to because so much of their economic activity revolves around selling to the USA or buying from the USA.
Central America would be a pushover.
Argentina has a very stechy currency as it is, I'm sure they would jump on board too. Equador already uses dollars.
Brazil and Venezuela would probably fight it.
It might work.

Canada and Mexico are no doubt best candidates, but small chance even with them. A common currency for NAFTA would require making it into a political union ala EU instead of just a plain FTA, something that is not going to happen in the forseeable future.
I think Mercosur+ is more likely to become a monetary union before NAFTA.
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Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby Tanada » Wed 24 May 2006, 06:39:11

Well everyones globalist buddy George Bush has hatched a plan to save us all from Illeagle immigration and the falling dollar. Erase the border making all immigrants leagle, and dump the dollar for a new North American currency called the Amero modeled on the Euro!

Amero Hegemony next
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')Pastor also advocated the creation of a new currency, the "Amero," to replace the U.S. dollar, the Canadian dollar and the Mexican peso, much as the Euro replaced the currencies of the individual participating countries. The creation of the Amero had first been proposed by economist Herbert Grubel in a 1999 report to the Canadian Fraser Institute calling for a "North American Monetary Union."
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby sventvkg » Wed 24 May 2006, 07:14:36

Never happen...not in this generation..I can't imagine any American being for this..OUR Constitution would have to be changed and I just don't see it.
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby mrobert » Wed 24 May 2006, 09:55:38

What's wrong with printing more of the good (green) current stuff (dollar) ?
Life can go on for hundreds of years, as long as there is ink and paper :)
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 24 May 2006, 10:10:16

I hope this is bull. As a Canadian, I'm sick of cleaning up America's messes. The last thing I want is to inherit their debt as well.

Now if they want to sell us some of that purdy military hardware...you know, at a good price...It is used, afterall...
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby master_rb » Wed 24 May 2006, 11:35:44

ok we got canada and USA against that, what about mexico, my bet is that they would love it

personally i think news like is so off reality it shouldn't even be read, unless for humorous reasons
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby mrobert » Wed 24 May 2006, 13:15:45

Humour is good :) Makes me smile ;)
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby uNkNowN ElEmEnt » Wed 24 May 2006, 14:55:15

There is no way they could pull this off. It would take eliminating the consititution. They can't just sneak it in the back door. Even just amending the constitution takes 7 or the 10 provinces ok. Lets see that fly.

Even if they tried by a referendum vote, the major populations in Quebec would never let that pass since they wouldn't have any rights and would lose all their language rights. I mean they don't even have english common law neither does the US. they are ruled by legal realism. and Quebec is governed by the Napoleonic Code. that would be a mess.

This happens and I will move off this continent. that is the one thing that could make me leave. Personally I think its just a wet dream on the part of a bunch of conservatives.

Can anyone in England speak to what was involved in consitituional amendments to fit into the EU?
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby strider3700 » Wed 24 May 2006, 15:35:06

heh I'll accept an amero if it's backed by gold. Until then you americans can keep your debt and worthless currency
shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby gego » Wed 24 May 2006, 17:02:21

I do think that effectively erasing the borders between the USA, Canada, and Mexico and having open immigration would be a good thing.

I personally would give up my US citizenship in favor of Canadian if I could continue to live in the USA. The result would be that I could use a brokerage firm out of the USA in a place like the Caymen Islands and then not pay tax on my income earned out of both the USA and Canada. As a US citizen I would be taxed on my worldwide income, but as a Canadian, I would only be taxed on my Canadian income which would be zero.
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby mrobert » Wed 24 May 2006, 17:02:44

How will it look?
One huge canadian leaf, and the text printed in spanish and english?
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 24 May 2006, 18:21:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mrobert', 'H')ow will it look? One huge canadian leaf, and the text printed in spanish and english?

A cowering Bald Eagle, huddled between the legs of a moose.
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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby mrobert » Wed 24 May 2006, 18:46:13

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Re: Amero to replace US Dollar, CN Dollar, Peso

Unread postby ClassicSpiderman » Sun 28 May 2006, 18:41:56

So not only does the corrupt banana republic of Mexico (with the help of the traitors in charge of the US & Canada) want to export its poor to the US, they want to export it to Canada as well. I will use every single angle to stop this nefarious plot, and that includes exploiting the Canadians' propensity for anti-Americanism.

EDIT: The article is written by "Mr. Abiotic Oil Himself" Jerome Corsi??? Oh well, it just goes to show you can agree with people on some things some of the time.
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