[formandfile]

Archer Daniels Midland says raise food for the cars, while Warren Staley of Cargill stated that "producing food [is] the most important task for agriculture." What a novel train of thought!
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')Cargill, ADM Differ in Food-Fuel Debate

By STEVE KARNOWSKI
Associated Press Writer


MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- One agribusiness giant is enthusiastic about using farmland to produce fuel. Another says growing food should be the top priority for those fields.

Archer Daniels Midland Co., by far the country's largest ethanol producer, has taken an aggressive approach to biofuels including ethanol and biodiesel. Cargill Inc. has been more restrained, though it's hardly sitting on the sidelines.

Recent comments by the chairmen of both companies mirror a larger debate taking place on how big of a contribution ethanol can make toward reducing America's need for oil imports, and whether using more corn to make more fuel will lead to higher food prices...

[Wildwell]

This will be one of the ongoing battles in the future: You drive while we starve. Especially as reports indicate world food production has peaked. In the end it will come down to profit, little else.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wildwell', 'E')specially as reports indicate world food production has peaked.

[nocar]

A hundred years ago, a common bitter complaint of the poor was that rich people's horses (or pigs or whatever) ate better and were better housed than they were.

So producing food for rich people's mobility while poor people starve is nothing new. Only differences is cars instead of horses. Not that it makes it more excusable.

nocar

[mrniceguy]

All over the world there are people who don't have enough to eat, while we (Europe, North America) throw away unwanted food. They starve because it doesn't make economic sense to let them have our unwanted food.

When it makes (economic) sense to grow biofuel crops so that a small number of wealthy people can drive rather than food crops for the hungry, unemployed and destitute. You can rest assured that biofuel crops will take priority

[Wildwell]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Wildwell', 'E')specially as reports indicate world food production has peaked.

[dinopello]

Cargill has been running ads on TV touting its distribution system which employs database technology but is also highly localized and adapted to local conditions. The commercial shows a guy on a bike with a large cooler on the back delivering small quantities of produce or other foods to I guess local markets/restaurants.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'C')argill has been running ads on TV touting its distribution system which employs database technology but is also highly localized and adapted to local conditions. The commercial shows a guy on a bike with a large cooler on the back delivering small quantities of produce or other foods to I guess local markets/restaurants.

[formandfile]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'C')argill has been running ads on TV touting its distribution system which employs database technology but is also highly localized and adapted to local conditions. The commercial shows a guy on a bike with a large cooler on the back delivering small quantities of produce or other foods to I guess local markets/restaurants.

[Poordogabone]

I can't imagine the price of a loaf of bread when we get this experiment (growing fuel) going on a grand scale .
My prediction if we go down that road:
It will benefit the elite only,
won't bring the cost of gas down,
$8-$10 for a loaf of bread or a gallon of fuel,
make the have nots more desperate and ready to work for lower wages etc.

on the brigth side , those kind of things have led to revolutions before.
But then again I could be all wrong and people will use motorcycles or
something else innovative.

[foodnotlawns]

I've been saying this exact same thing since "biodiesel" and "ethanol" became the craze.

it's even more sinister than what you are saying. They are going to use the food for fuel for military adventures.

Do you know they starved millions of Ukrainians in the 1930's in order to export food to fund the program of "Rapid Industrilalization?"

They'll do the same thing, and this time they'll do it to us, here. Americans think it will never happen to them. They are in for an ugly surprise.

[rushdy]

If anyone parts me from my food, they'll have a full scale rebellion on their hands

[basil_hayden]

My food can be used for cars right after I'm done with it and before I flush the toilet.

[NeoPeasant]

My new post peak strategy: Live near the fuel corn fields and glean enough off the ground to make my daily corn meal mush.

[lawnchair]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('basil_hayden', 'M')y food can be used for cars right after I'm done with it and before I flush the toilet.

[max_power29]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NeoPeasant', 'M')y new post peak strategy: Live near the fuel corn fields and glean enough off the ground to make my daily corn meal mush.