Donate Bitcoin

Donate Paypal


PeakOil is You

PeakOil is You

Store inventories lower than normal?

What's on your mind?
General interest discussions, not necessarily related to depletion.

Store inventories lower than normal?

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 08 May 2006, 17:25:13

I was in the local Chinamart today (yea yea, I know. But it's the only choice left for a lot of presently needful things unless I want to drive to the next county), and I couldn't help noticing what seemed to me to be an unusual amount of empty space on the shelves, and in a lot of different areas too. Isn't Walmart supposed to be, like, the king of nightly restock?

Now that I think about it, I noted a similar condition at the local supermarket the other day. Anyone else noticing anything similar in any of their local stores?

{title edited by Shannymara}
"It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas? Is goin' bye-bye... "
User avatar
TWilliam
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 2591
Joined: Sun 28 Nov 2004, 04:00:00

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby NeoPeasant » Mon 08 May 2006, 17:31:24

I just so happen to be heading there in about 15 minutes to pick up a prescription. Now that you've got my attention I'll have a look around.
The battle to preserve our lifestyle has already been lost. The battle to preserve our lives is just beginning.
NeoPeasant
Heavy Crude
Heavy Crude
 
Posts: 1003
Joined: Tue 12 Oct 2004, 03:00:00

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby Wednesday » Mon 08 May 2006, 17:55:46

Yes.

Today I was unable to locate the brand names Borax and Pears Soap in my entire town.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
~Friedrich Nietzsche~
Wednesday
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 763
Joined: Wed 29 Dec 2004, 04:00:00
Location: Central Texas

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby Novus » Mon 08 May 2006, 18:14:23

The beginnings of fuel shortages hit the truckers first. There is a gas station in my area that is still out gas for about week. I think Walmart and other super-markets will collapse quickly when the crisis really gets rolling. The average joe is going to be in shock and awe how quicly his suburban lifestyle falls apart when oil is no longer cheap or abundent.
User avatar
Novus
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2450
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby Wednesday » Mon 08 May 2006, 18:29:11

Well, I am in a small, unimportant market. (pop 10, 000)

I'm glad the rail lines are still intact here. Maybe they won't forget about us completely, and we can get some rail action going.

I'll live without soap if I can keep eating.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
~Friedrich Nietzsche~
Wednesday
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 763
Joined: Wed 29 Dec 2004, 04:00:00
Location: Central Texas

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby PeakOiler » Mon 08 May 2006, 18:38:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'T')he beginnings of fuel shortages hit the truckers first. There is a gas station in my area that is still out gas for about week. I think Walmart and other super-markets will collapse quickly when the crisis really gets rolling. The average joe is going to be in shock and awe how quicly his suburban lifestyle falls apart when oil is no longer cheap or abundent.


Relax.

Didn't you hear that ethanol and biodiesel from Africa is going to save us?

:roll:
User avatar
PeakOiler
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 3664
Joined: Thu 18 Nov 2004, 04:00:00
Location: Central Texas

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 08 May 2006, 18:49:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'T')he beginnings of fuel shortages hit the truckers first.

I agree. But doesn't Walmart have it's own fleet?

I Wonder if they're reducing their restock frequency? I seem to recall they were tooting their horn a number of weeks back about how they were going to "take steps" to save energy. Is this a sign of one of those "steps", or is there a deeper problem, like maybe their domestic suppliers having trouble meeting shipments because of energy issues?
"It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas? Is goin' bye-bye... "
User avatar
TWilliam
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 2591
Joined: Sun 28 Nov 2004, 04:00:00

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby musselj » Mon 08 May 2006, 19:21:32

in my area (Detroit metro) I have noticed a lot of stores with empty shelves it is pretty weird to see it happening!!
User avatar
musselj
Wood
Wood
 
Posts: 10
Joined: Sat 15 Oct 2005, 03:00:00

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby Novus » Mon 08 May 2006, 19:46:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'T')he beginnings of fuel shortages hit the truckers first.

I agree. But doesn't Walmart have it's own fleet?


That is irrelevent unless they have their own oil too. Walmart's entire business model is based on cheap and abundent oil and will simply collapse without it. All of suburia is stuck in a similar position. With PO upon us their days are numbered.
User avatar
Novus
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2450
Joined: Tue 21 Jun 2005, 03:00:00

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby ubercrap » Mon 08 May 2006, 19:54:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('musselj', 'i')n my area (Detroit metro) I have noticed a lot of stores with empty shelves it is pretty weird to see it happening!!


Super K in Dearborn was like that 10 years ago!
User avatar
ubercrap
Lignite
Lignite
 
Posts: 359
Joined: Wed 27 Apr 2005, 03:00:00
Top

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby Wednesday » Mon 08 May 2006, 20:03:42

When Wal-Mart closes in my town, it will also leave a good percentage of my neighbors unemployed. (Thankfully, my husband's job will actually be MORE useful and in demand after TSHTF.)

I live in a tourist destination, people come here for the world class skiing. We will lose tourism, too.

I expect our population to shrink dramatically, I can only guess how much, when the wealthy retirees and the hippie teen welfare moms leave town for greener pastures. (We have an unusally large ratio of very young people living on the dole, won't break my heart to see 'em go.)

Those of us staying will pull together. I don't expect violence, I do expect we will lose most of our population to migration and hardship.

With an even smaller population we will not be getting regular shipments from the "outside". I just hope our city government can convince someone to put a few bags of flour on the train for us.
The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
~Friedrich Nietzsche~
Wednesday
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 763
Joined: Wed 29 Dec 2004, 04:00:00
Location: Central Texas

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby TWilliam » Mon 08 May 2006, 20:34:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'T')he beginnings of fuel shortages hit the truckers first.

I agree. But doesn't Walmart have it's own fleet?


That is irrelevent unless they have their own oil too. Walmart's entire business model is based on cheap and abundent oil and will simply collapse without it. All of suburia is stuck in a similar position. With PO upon us their days are numbered.


Quite so Novus, if the issue is actual fuel shortages. But since they have their own fleet, I would expect that they also pay (or at least compensate their drivers) for fuel, so "trucker hardship" shouldn't be the problem in Walmart's case at least. On the otherhand, for companies that rely on independent truckers, I can definitely see this becoming a problem very soon...
"It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas? Is goin' bye-bye... "
User avatar
TWilliam
Expert
Expert
 
Posts: 2591
Joined: Sun 28 Nov 2004, 04:00:00
Top

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby strider3700 » Mon 08 May 2006, 21:34:47

home depot also had some empty shelves. I got the feeling they where just switching stock for the summer items or something along those lines.
shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
strider3700
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2865
Joined: Sun 17 Apr 2005, 03:00:00
Location: Vancouver Island

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby Gazzatrone » Mon 08 May 2006, 21:58:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PeakOiler', 'R')elax. Didn't you hear that ethanol and biodiesel from Africa is going to save us? :roll:

Considering Africa's political maturity and the state of Nigeria. Ethanol production is as safe as houses. The Medieval minds meet 20thC weapons. Bleat your liberal crap all you want but it is the truth.
User avatar
Gazzatrone
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 581
Joined: Mon 07 Nov 2005, 04:00:00
Location: London, UK
Top

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby willjones4 » Mon 08 May 2006, 22:37:56

shelves are full where I am but the prices have notably increased in the last couple of weeks...
User avatar
willjones4
Peat
Peat
 
Posts: 77
Joined: Tue 16 Aug 2005, 03:00:00

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby joewp » Mon 08 May 2006, 22:41:27

What I'm noticing around here is the roads are becoming increasingly more pitted and rutted than in previous years. Cracks and loose gravel are more prevalent too. This applies to primary roads as well as secondary and tertiary roads. New Jersey's highway fund is supposed to be broke next month unless something is done, but asphalt prices are increasing monthly.

They leave the roadkill deer on the road now too. Used to pick them up in a couple of days.
Last edited by joewp on Mon 08 May 2006, 23:40:40, edited 1 time in total.
Joe P. joeparente.com
"Only when the last tree is cut; only when the last river is polluted; only when the last fish is caught; only then will they realize that you cannot eat money." - Cree Indian Proverb
User avatar
joewp
Intermediate Crude
Intermediate Crude
 
Posts: 2054
Joined: Tue 05 Apr 2005, 03:00:00
Location: Keeping dry in South Florida

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby NTBKtrader » Mon 08 May 2006, 22:47:22

I haven't noticed any empty shelves in S. Fl. but I will be on the watchout now.

I do think the high gas prices are crimping everyone's pocket. A lot of well off businessman I am acquainted and chat with have had their incomes drop recently, including my own. It just bedoggles my mind that the US economy is still growing, I don't fully understand it.
User avatar
NTBKtrader
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 600
Joined: Tue 19 Oct 2004, 03:00:00

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby Armageddon » Mon 08 May 2006, 22:58:54

I dont believe any numbers the government puts out on the economy. They use the fudge factor on those numbers. Every leading indicator is skewed toward economic growth
User avatar
Armageddon
Light Sweet Crude
Light Sweet Crude
 
Posts: 7450
Joined: Wed 13 Apr 2005, 03:00:00
Location: St.Louis, Mo

Re: Anyone else noticing?

Unread postby DesertBear2 » Mon 08 May 2006, 23:23:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('armegeddon', 'I') dont believe any numbers the government puts out on the economy. They use the fudge factor on those numbers. Every leading indicator is skewed toward economic growth


Every $800,000 McMansion is counted in the GDP production total. So are the $40,000 <b>Realtor@</b> commissions in the services count. So these layers over layers of bubble money are counted as GDP growth.

And around 40% of corporate profits are coming from the financial sector- not the manufacturing sector. This means that when a bank borrows Yen in Japan at 0% interest and makes a McMansion mortgage at 6.8%, that this is counted as a component of strong corporate profits. When the credit/housing bubble bursts, that 40% of corporate profits goes poof.
DesertBear2
Tar Sands
Tar Sands
 
Posts: 514
Joined: Sat 13 Aug 2005, 03:00:00
Location: BlueRidgeVA
Top

Next

Return to Open Topic Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

cron