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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby Pops » Mon 01 May 2006, 13:31:45

Most folks that know more than me think there are still quite a few billion barrels left to find.

But even with reserve growth we’ve been finding less and less and smaller and smaller for 40 or so years so a huge find does seem improbable.

I love to have a few billion barrels more sitting offshore though.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby mrobert » Mon 01 May 2006, 13:53:24

This story is similar to that claiming a device that can be attached to a man's d*ck so he can piss in the fuel tank, and have the piss instantly transformed into premium gasoline.

I also heard they are working on a version for women.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby MacG » Mon 01 May 2006, 13:54:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReserveGrowthRulz', 'B')ut what is funny about probabilities is, just because it hasn't been found, doesn't discount the idea that it CAN be found. Simply sticking ones head in the sand and pretending that unexplored areas of the planet of COURSE can't have world class sedimentary basins in them is ridiculous and a key component to why Peak Oil probably isn't yet, and may not be for quite some time.


Can we go aside and talk a little in private? OK?

I understand that you are scared. I'm scared too. We just have different ways to show it. It's quite natural to be scared, and you dont have to be ashamed about it.

I dont mind your postings, neither do I mind "Lorenzo's". I notice that you express your fears in similar ways. The thing is that if you really BELIVED in what you write, you would just shrug your shoulders and leave this forum, which is obviously packed with nervous idiots. There are gazillions of net forums with weird and strange content, and if you choose to pick a battle with just a percent of them, you have a full time job and more.

The very fact that you, and for that case "Lorenzo", show such an intense interest in this forum tell me that you are just as scared as the rest of us.

Some choose an interest in weapons, some show an interest in PermaCulture, while still others show an interest in biofuels or reserve growth. Same fear in different cans.

I dont want to sound patronizing or so, but sometime I hope that you will find another way to handle your fear.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby Leanan » Mon 01 May 2006, 14:00:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut what is funny about probabilities is, just because it hasn't been found, doesn't discount the idea that it CAN be found. Simply sticking ones head in the sand and pretending that unexplored areas of the planet of COURSE can't have world class sedimentary basins in them is ridiculous and a key component to why Peak Oil probably isn't yet, and may not be for quite some time.


According to Deffeyes, there are no unexplored areas of the planet left. The possible exception is the South China Sea, which has been off-limits for political reasons. (However, it seems to be mostly natural gas.)

He tells the story of being in a room with his colleagues, and discovering that every spot on earth had been personally explored by someone in the room. The most obscure valley in "closed" countries like Iran - someone in the room had been there, seen the cores and seismographs, knew what was likely there.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby Zardoz » Mon 01 May 2006, 14:02:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('warmh2o', 'W')hat do ya'll think?


I think that site is a lot of fun:

http://www.newtechspy.com/april06/april28b.html

http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/boeing797.html

http://www.newtechspy.com/april06/april25c.html

Cool stuff, huh? I can't wait for it, and all that light sweet crude that's going to come gushing out of the GOM next year.

I guess Aaron may as well shut down PeakOil.com, huh? Everything's fine. Go on about your business, everybody.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby coyote » Mon 01 May 2006, 14:08:13

God damn it. I saw the headline and got all excited for a second. Now I'm all pissed off... :x
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby Jack » Mon 01 May 2006, 14:16:07

No doubt this is why futures traders are bidding the price of oil up today. Clearly, they seek to generate tax losses. :lol:
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby jato » Mon 01 May 2006, 14:30:49

This is not a Current Event...moving to Open Discussion.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby Leanan » Mon 01 May 2006, 14:32:50

I think it was in his first book. I'll check when get home.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby ReserveGrowthRulz » Mon 01 May 2006, 15:06:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', '
')According to Deffeyes, there are no unexplored areas of the planet left.


He's wrong. In part at least because he apparently doesn't have a clue as to what "explored" constitutes.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby skeptic » Mon 01 May 2006, 15:12:23

Google reveals this is old stuff recycled from an article put out by the American Geological Institute in June 2003

http://www.agiweb.org/geotimes/june03/NN_gulf.html

as we havent heard anything more of this in the interim, I assume it didnt come to much.

I like the look of a Lithium battery powered Daimler Chrysler Smart ForTwo... I'll take one of those. Perfect for where I live. Those arent on sale in the UK yet - only the standard petrol versions are available

http://www.newtechspy.com/articles06/lithiumcar.html

Think I'll wait till the price comes down a bit tho...$35,000 is absurd... the petrol version retails from £6775 in the UK. http://www.smart.com
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby EddieB » Mon 01 May 2006, 15:42:36

You know, I tried to poke around on that website and couldn't stand it. It is a POS if ever I saw one with graphics on top of script, typographical errors left and right, and generally poor presentation. I'm amazed that anyone would believe something from such an obviously irreputible source like that... Ah well.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby NEOPO » Mon 01 May 2006, 16:06:46

How does something like this make peakoil.com headline news?
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby ashurbanipal » Mon 01 May 2006, 16:25:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e's wrong. In part at least because he apparently doesn't have a clue as to what "explored" constitutes.


What is your reason for saying this? Can you back up this assertion?
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby 0mar » Mon 01 May 2006, 16:40:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReserveGrowthRulz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', '
')According to Deffeyes, there are no unexplored areas of the planet left.


He's wrong. In part at least because he apparently doesn't have a clue as to what "explored" constitutes.


I'm sorry, what degrees do you hold in geology and what experience do you have with working with oil companies? Deffeyes ahs a PhD and over 30 years experience in the field. I'm more inclined to believe him than some random poster on PO.net.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby ReserveGrowthRulz » Mon 01 May 2006, 17:38:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ashurbanipal', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')e's wrong. In part at least because he apparently doesn't have a clue as to what "explored" constitutes.


What is your reason for saying this? Can you back up this assertion?


Sure. How many exploratory wells have been drilled on how many acres above the Arctic Circle? How many wells have been drilled in the Laptev sea? How many wells have been drilled into how many sedimentary basins which have had nothing more than someone flying a seismic line through the area and proclaiming that the area was "explored"?

The last well drilled on the North Slope was the discovery well for Prudhoe...not the first. Run seismic lines through an old basin, say something in Appalachia, and you would miss everything from the Lima field to the Berea SS and everything else which is borderline continuous and without a discrete structure.

Explored....please....pipe dreams by people with an agenda.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby ReserveGrowthRulz » Mon 01 May 2006, 17:40:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReserveGrowthRulz', 'H')e's wrong. In part at least because he apparently doesn't have a clue as to what "explored" constitutes.
I am supposed to listen to you? :lol:


Thank you for proving the point of how far zealotry in this particular area goes....when confronted with an opposing idea....scream...run...hide...call names...but whatever you do, DON'T try and understand.
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Re: Scientists Discover (Biggest Ever) Oil field off U.S. co

Unread postby ReserveGrowthRulz » Mon 01 May 2006, 17:46:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('0mar', '
')I'm sorry, what degrees do you hold in geology and what experience do you have with working with oil companies? Deffeyes ahs a PhD and over 30 years experience in the field. I'm more inclined to believe him than some random poster on PO.net.


So how many times does a PhD have to be wrong before he's wrong? Just once? A couple of dozen? A hundred?

Pick a line in the sand, I'll start pulling Deffeyes articles and start counting...we'll see which side of the line we end up on.

Does Hirsch get a pass for being a smart guy too, even though he's been peddling the Hirsch report since the mid-80's? Said about the same thing as the one published for the DOE more recently. Do we start in on Colin next? Of course, he's alot easier to discredit because he's been crying wolf for so long he's backed into a major corner now.

Do we assume Hubbert was the smartest of the bunch? Except for the decade off he's been so far with World Peak? Natural Gas peak? Or do we concentrate on his example of oil production in Ohio as a prime example of how economics blows his curve fitting approach right out of the water?

All smart people....and one of them, was right, sorta, once.

And others declare the entire world explored. Give me a break.
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