[Ghog]

The responses to this person's topic were 'interesting'. Here is how it started.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')y numbers may be off, but follow me on this....
If there are 40 cars per race and the race is 500 miles...that's 20000miles, right?
If those cars get about 6 MPG, that's about 3333.3 gallons of gas per race!
This doesn't include tome trials, practice laps, driver training, idling time and whatever a NASCAR car does.
NASCAR, hot rods, mini-trucks, stock car, Formula 1, there are a lot of races out there. Aren't we having a oil supply issue right now?

[mekrob]

Don't worry. Darwin is on his way.

[PolestaR]

I had an interesting argument in the chat rooms of Battle.net with a twenty something american who had done some research into energy and economics. It's funny how many "educated" people will refuse to actually realize certain key facts about the way we live and the real cost involved in what we do.

They don't see how much harder it is to extract oil from shales or tar sands, they just see the end product, a barrel of oil, and 1 trillion barrels of it in tar sands and shale. These people will never be convinced, ever, until the gas station is out of gas permanently. Kind of sucks in a way, but the more ignorance there is the better it is for the preparers.

[Atlantean_Relic]

Yes, I thank God for making Darwin.

[killJOY]

My doomerosity index just jumped up a point.

[Ghog]

I think what intrigued me the most was the level of hostility over something I personally find inconsequential (NASCAR). In other words, don't upset the apple cart.

[mekrob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', 'M')y doomerosity index just jumped up a point.

[Atlantean_Relic]

Sad thing is all those thing his attackers sarcastically listed as waste are WASTE.

[seldom_seen]

The current trends are a bit disturbing. Rather than reduce our drawdown of finite oil supplies, the trend is to rip up the candadian wilderness, burn down the forests of borneo and sumatra, or convert agricultural crops to fuel instead of food in a desperate attempt to maintain our current levels of consumption.

As killjoy said, it may be time to assess your doomerosity index and make the appropriate adjustments.

[RonMN]

This is only nascar...If you want to see real anger & possible violence...mention to a family member that they should turn the heat down in the winter & put on a sweatshirt. WOOOOOOOOO!

Then duck It tuely amazes me when i hear bitching when the gas bill arives, and yet the idea of wearing warm cloths indoors is insane.

Yup...this is AMERICA! And i'm truely thankful for the 2nd amendment!

[Ghog]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Atlantean_Relic', 'S')ad thing is all those thing his attackers sarcastically listed as waste are WASTE.

[brewha]

Well, at least you don't have to worry about these two Nascar idoits.

[web]http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/5537228[/web]

"Fans commonly use poles to fly flags touting their favorite driver.

Witnesses said Wright and Stell were attempting to anchor a flagpole when it was caught by wind and pushed into power lines running along a road outside the track."

[gego]

I take it you were crusading to spread the idea of peak oil.

What did you intend to accomplish? Maybe you wanted to save these fellows from the consequences of this civilization requiring oil to sustain 6.5 billion, although I cannot imagine how you intended to do that.

Perhaps the message here is that the real idiot is not so much the mass, but rather the one who would try to inform them to his own disadvantage. Since there are a limited number of seats on the lifeboats, why would you want to tell? You need a mirror into which to look at yourself.

[Ghog]

It sounds like you are referring to me and my topic, but you missed the key word:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he responses to this person's topic were 'interesting'. Here is how it started.

[gego]

So, I eat a little crow.

I need a little laught at myself now and than and you have helped me to provide it to myself, or did you provide it. In any event, touche'.

[Ghog]

That's ok because this...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou sort of makes me thinking of someone marching around the decks of the Titanic after all the lifeboats have been launched, proposing a redesign of the hull, and watertight compartments.

[green_achers]

This is why I no longer make any self-sacrifice to conserve. Every gallon you save is just another that idiots like this will piss away for fun. I prefer to use the gallons I can command with my dollars to facilitate my getting ready for the coming times.

[Ghog]

That's ok because this...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')ou sort of makes me thinking of someone marching around the decks of the Titanic after all the lifeboats have been launched, proposing a redesign of the hull, and watertight compartments.

[mabz]

As a huge sports fan who cannot understand motorsports and why anyone would enjoy it I congradulate the guy who posted about Nascar. Winding up motorsports fans is great fun but you could make fun of them for ever and it is easy. The responces were what you would expect. Uphill battle? More like Up the Eiger batlle.

It does lead to what will happen to sport post PO and even though a lot of people on this forum may not care about sport with more pressing topics to consider, it should be interesting. Hopefully we'll move away from the sedantary watching of pro athletes and head back to a more amatuer participation based sporting life. More social interaction, community involvment, exercise etc. And hopefully an end to motor[sport?].

[Waterthrush]

Professional sports are one subject, but why not focus on something that is a consistent money-loser and a drain on local governments. The money spent on children's sports is DESPERATELY needed elsewhere by local governments. I'm not advocating a shutdown, just a cutback. Our local school board keeps trying to push through budgets containing millions for "upgraded sports facilities." I wish they would start cutting back - the number of games per season, the amount of travel, the number of attendants - I mean, there are now personal trainers attending to middle school athletes. I can imagine the costs to schools for sports insurance.

Rather, spend some of the money on more intramural and recreational sports, stuff the kids will truly use all their lives, and will benefit more of them at a time when they all need to be active.

And, scotch the "travel teams" for ten year old soccer players. They are NOT going to get professional contracts.

Intramurals and rec leagues - that would save a lot of fuel and a lot of school budget money.