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The elite's plan

Unread postby Chicagoan » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 01:11:10

Over the last couple of months examining the New World Order and its plans for humanity, I have to come to the conclusion that the elite plan to deal with peak oil by killing 90% of humanity and enslaving the rest. They will then horde over what is left of the oil and live like gods.

It is unfortunate that the leading NWO researchers do not realize the truth behind peak oil, but I for one cannot blame them. The elite are perfactly capable of inducing artificial scarcity, and have done so in the past. The cost of oil right now is partially the result of the war in Iraq, and legal barriers to developing existing oil fields. They have also reduced refinery capacity to below the current level of oil production. The elite plan to hasten the decline of oil production so they can have it for themselves after the crash.

The following documents, uncovered by Alex Jones, prove that there is indeed a plan to create artificial oil scarcity before the crash.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/oc ... panies.htm

http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/energy/fs/5105.pdf
http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/energy/fs/5104.pdf
http://www.consumerwatchdog.org/energy/fs/5103.pdf
http://politicalphysics.com/node/753

This does not disprove peak oil, but it does show that there is price manipulation going on. And as I eluded to before, the various oil wars being waged have the effect of preventing oil from being extracted from the countries in question, thus driving up the price.

Despite Alex Jones' denial, Intelligence from Bilderberg 2005 suggests that peak oil is real.

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An American Bilderberger expressed concern over the skyrocketing price of oil. One oil industry insider at the meeting remarked that growth is not possible without energy and that, according to all indicators, the world's energy supply is coming to an end much faster than the world leaders have anticipated. According to sources, Bilderbergers estimate the extractable world's oil supply to be at a maximum of 35 years under current economic development and population. However, one of the representatives of an oil cartel remarked that we must factor into the equation, both the population explosion and economic growth and demand for oil in China and India. Under the revised conditions, there is apparently only enough oil to last for 20 years. No oil spells the end of the world's financial system. So much has already been acknowledged by The Wall Street Journal and the Financial Times, two periodicals who are regularly present at the annual Bilderberg conference.

Conclusion: Expect a severe downturn in the world's economy over the next two years as Bilderbergers try to safeguard the remaining oil supply by taking money out of people's hands. In a recession or, at worst, a depression, the population will be forced to dramatically cut down their spending habits, thus ensuring a longer supply of oil to the world's rich as they try to figure out what to do.

economy.http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/bi ... _hands.htm
The world's rich have already figured out what to do. They will force us into compact cities where they will kill us with mutated forms of ebola and other deadly viruses. I know this is hard to accept, but there is ample evidence of this. Please read the links in this archive. http://www.prisonplanet.com/archive_bra ... tml#deadly

The kind of "sustainable development" being pushed will result in higher concentrations of people, making it easier for these diseases to spread. Note that a truly sustainable community would no longer be dependent on the "system" and thus would be much less likely to accept NWO control.

In summary, the elite plan to keep us away from the oil, and then kill us.

BTW, I know that Alex Jones, Rense, and others have rejected peak oil. But the peak oilers tend to reject the New World Order. The two truth movements need to come together. I think the reason they haven't is because if you put two and two together, our situation seems utterly hopeless. People need hope to go on, when in truth there is none. If the NWO is defeated, our society will crash anyway. If it is not, we will still be killed, but in a slightly more orderly manner. Does this make me a doomer?8O
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby TT » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 01:29:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', '
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I don't think so.

More like a manic depressive who suffers paranoid delusions.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 11:08:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TT', '
')More like a manic depressive who suffers paranoid delusions.
The question in my mind is how much power do the people at the top really have to carry out grand plans to control things. Is there really just one elite or are there various elites? It seems more likely to me that collectively, humanity is not under the thumb of anyone or any group, but you never know, do you? If there was a True Elite in charge, I could see them doing something like these "paranoid delusions" out of neccessity. If the worst comes about, it won't even matter if it's "controlled" by anyone or not, the result will be the same. Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand" is going to slap us hard.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Kingcoal » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 11:41:34

Population is the biggest problem as we run out of oil. Our current world population is a dirrect result of our plentiful hydrocarbons, which allow us to produce copious amounts of food and transport that food and other goods cheaply.

Using history as a guide, when hard times come, those at the bottom of society die. Those at the top are smart and ruthless and thus tend to pull through. A massive reduction in population would solve a number of problems.

On the other hand, low population isn't everything. Presures from large population force invention. Demand for lamp oil drove the oil industry. The oil industry drove the technological development of the last 100 years.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Chicagoan » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 12:20:17

Well, the elite are in control of things. Everyone should check prisonplanet.com and Rense.com every day. Read their archives, there is so much evidence it is overwhelming.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Chicagoan » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 12:28:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', '
')On the other hand, low population isn't everything. Presures from large population force invention. Demand for lamp oil drove the oil industry. The oil industry drove the technological development of the last 100 years.


The elite have been suppressing the development for alternatives to oil. They might have, somewhere in the black belly of the beast, a source of energy capable of replacing oil. But they will keep it to themselves even if they do. They have always wanted to be gods. When industrial society collapses, and we are reduced to serfdom, they will still be riding around in learjets. They will be as the Gods of Olympus were to the ancient Greeks. When the majority of the planet is armed only with sticks and stones, and they are armed with ICBMS, Nobody will stand a chance against them.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 12:29:36

You know...Alex Jones would probably be able to gain himself a lot more credibility if he would drop the whole "Lizard man overlords who worship Molloch and sacrifice human babies" routine.
The whole of human history is a refutation by experiment of the concept of "moral world order". - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 08 Apr 2006, 13:29:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', ' ') They will be as the Gods of Olympus were to the ancient Greeks. When the majority of the planet is armed only with sticks and stones, and they are armed with ICBMS, Nobody will stand a chance against them.
You're serious about this, aren't you. LOL. Watch the movie Zardoz, I think you'll like it.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Battle_Scarred_Galactico » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 10:27:08

Well they're not doing a very good job are they, I'd give them a big fat 'F' on their megalomaniac report sheet. If I was them, I'd get a little island somewhere and retire.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby gnm » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 11:28:32

Hmmm... Well perhaps the "elite" have never heard of a little game called "South African Chess"... It was a "Trevor" political cartoon I think from a while back which had all the white pieces lined up on the side facing you and on the other side the board stretched into infinity with black pawns....

the "elite" are only "elite" in thier swollen heads... And we already have a solution for that..

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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Chicagoan » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 13:07:33

Have you guys familiar with the Mongol Empire? It is really fascinating. Those nomadic horsemen were able to create the largest empire to ever exist. Most of the Eurasian continent was under their rule.

You might wonder how the pre-industrial Mongols were able to keep such a large empire together without oil. Simple. They forced the peasants to take some of their precious oats to feed their horses. They also fed the horses of merchants who wanted to cross that vast domain. As a result, many starved to death. But many modern accounts of the Mongol Empire have nothing but praise for those steppe-nazis. "They are so wonderful! They brought trade! Oh, where did Ghanghis Khan get such wonder ideas! Yes, he killed lots of people with pleasure, but the end result was utopia." I am not kidding, you should go read some of the literature out there. I wish I could transport some of those professors back in time and make them feed the horses. See how they like it.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 13:56:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', 'T')he kind of "sustainable development" being pushed will result in higher concentrations of people, making it easier for these diseases to spread. Note that a truly sustainable community would no longer be dependent on the "system" and thus would be much less likely to accept NWO control.


Wow. Suburbs/exurbs = anti NWO? Who knew?

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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 14:15:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Battle_Scarred_Galactico', 'I')f I was them, I'd get a little island somewhere and retire.


They have one. It's called the continuation of government facility at Mt. Weather.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Free » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 15:20:42

Sorry, total BS, IMHO.

I mean, have you ever met people of the so called "elite"? This isn't some kind of all prescient, almighty master-race, it's normal people. They eat, they shit, they have their petty vanities, are prisoned in their fears and desires and family fuckups, some are stupid, some are smart, some believe in PO, some don't, and so on and so on.

They have accumulated wealth, and their only goal is to keep it, and to that matter the maximum of conspiracy and planning they are capable of is that they try to maintain the status quo, and this is what we are seeing now.
And even then a Rupert Murdoch might have a total different idea how to achieve this and what's good for himself, than a Warren Buffet or some politicians.

I almost wish that there was a human entity that had so much control that it could decide over the fate of humanity, because it's not unlikely that even the most gruesome fascist system would be better than uncontrollable, chaotic collapse, die-off and nuclear escalation.

No, the danger is not human manipulation, but lack of human control, and lack of reflection and planning on a global level.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 20:47:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', 'S')orry, total BS, IMHO.

I mean, have you ever met people of the so called "elite"?


Like you have. What cracks me up are people who know somone who drives a mercedes and has a few million, and from that think they have an idea of what the "elites" are up to. I don't think Chicagoan is talking about your run of the mill rich dudes but the true power elite. For some insider ideas about the ability of this group or groups to construct and implement social engineering programs and conspiracies you might want to consult with Micro Hydro. She apparently went to school with some of them.

Chicagoan, Somehow I don't think the end game is to reduce the world's population. A more realistic end goal for big pharma, for example, would be to make the entire world sick with some bug that they could easily cure with a very expensive drug. I see no evidence of a desire on the part of the present mob to reduce population for any reason. The money is on a population of 10 billion.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby schmoo » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 21:47:28

:) seems like the 'bird flu' might be perfect for 'the elite' to wipe out most of the population of the planet very quickly and cheaply - concentration camps are way too expensive to be practical, as Hitler discovered.

However it could get boring if too many people died - not enouph slaves for example. Plus TV would get worse (i.e. soap operas would only have one or two characters), forums like this less interesting, and there would be less hits on my blog!

Still at least there would be no wars, as there would be no one to fight them - bad for the industrial military complex though. Also no factory workers in asia to make luxury electronic goods for 'the elite'.

Question: if most of the worlds population is dead how could 'the elite' be 'the elite' anymore? There would be nobody left to be elitist over. They'd all be 'equals' - sounds like communism! Does this mean the 'the elite' are communists, or even anarchists?

George Bush for example, seems more like an anarchist than a communist - but maybe he is not really part of 'the elite' because they are ment to be clever, unless he is just pretending to be stupid as cover which is possible (really his 'gaffs' are all scripted).
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Free » Tue 11 Apr 2006, 00:18:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Free', 'S')orry, total BS, IMHO.

I mean, have you ever met people of the so called "elite"?


Like you have. What cracks me up are people who know somone who drives a mercedes and has a few million, and from that think they have an idea of what the "elites" are up to. I don't think Chicagoan is talking about your run of the mill rich dudes but the true power elite. For some insider ideas about the ability of this group or groups to construct and implement social engineering programs and conspiracies you might want to consult with Micro Hydro. She apparently went to school with some of them.

Chicagoan, Somehow I don't think the end game is to reduce the world's population. A more realistic end goal for big pharma, for example, would be to make the entire world sick with some bug that they could easily cure with a very expensive drug. I see no evidence of a desire on the part of the present mob to reduce population for any reason. The money is on a population of 10 billion.


So please enlighten my ignorant self who exactly qualifies as the elite in your eyes? It's certainly not about having a mercedes (actually only taxi drivers and turkish immigrants drive them here...).

Who are those mysterious reptile-shifting half-gods who decide over the fate of humanity? Surely they sit in candle-lit backrooms of Bilderberg meetings in Davos and discuss wether a nuclear war or a pandemic is the best way to cause a die off. Give me a fucking brake...

Of course power is about capital, what else? Money is the most common form of capital, but surely not the only one, to speak with Bourdieu there is also cultural, symbolic and social capital, and sometimes one of these is nothing without the other. You have the nouveau riche, the old money, the family clans and networks, and so on, and they are often allied in some way, but also often opposed.

To assume that there is a global powernetwork that controls everything top down is just so simplistic and ignorant of how the world works.

Social engineering sounds great until you tried to "social engineer" and control as few as five kids at the same time.

Occams razor. If anybody ever thinks he is in control of anything he is not paying attention.

There are no "powerful" people. The power "shines through them" as Foucault so brilliantly said. And as Hegel already knew, the master is nothing without his slave, not only vice versa.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby threadbear » Tue 11 Apr 2006, 00:34:56

Free--How you blather on. Concision, dear boy. Concision.

One hardly needs a star chamber if they have legions of willfully ignorant intellectuals happy to hop on board any new ideological bus willing to pick them up and pay their fare.

Consider the "wisdom of the free market" meme. Although it's abundantly clear that globalization has created more poverty than wealth, it's been a piece of cake convincing everyone in the winner's circle that everyone benefits. Social engineering and propaganda campaigns designed for those who will benefit from certain beliefs are a snap.

Now...run along.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Free » Tue 11 Apr 2006, 00:39:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'F')ree--How you blather on. Concision, dear boy. Concision.

One hardly needs a star chamber if they have legions of willfully ignorant intellectuals happy to hop on board any new ideological bus willing to pick them up and pay their fare.

Consider the "wisdom of the free market" meme. Although it's abundantly clear that globalization has created more poverty than wealth, it's been a piece of cake convincing everyone in the winner's circle that everyone benefits. Social engineering and propaganda campaigns designed for those who will benefit from certain beliefs are a snap.

Now...run along.


No thanks I prefer to blather on, logorrhea is my rhetorical weapon of choice... :P

The free market meme and the free market itself is a wonderful example of how control is neither necessary nor possible. It only works so well because it's efficient and actually beneficient for the majority of the players until a certain point, and there is no need for propaganda or illusionary carrots if there are actually carrots hanging from the sticks, and once in a while you get a carrot. Within these parameters it's easy to convince somebody.

You could just as well consider yourself powerful if you say "Let it be light" every morning...

Most of us here know it's a ponzi-scheme, and that a certain point it will inevitably collapse. Such is the nature of exponential growth.
However, do the "elites" know, intend or even plan this actively? I would think certainly not. Most of them are ignorant in their shortsighted greed.

The exponential accumulation of their wealth will actually hurt them the most in the end, because it is them that profit the most of the status quo, that's why they would uphold it if they could, but alas they are powerless to stop the juggernaut, nor do they even see it coming.

These "elites", how long have they been in the saddle now? 100 years? 200 years? That's nothing in historical terms. They will be a footnote in the books of the future elite, until they themselves will fall.

It's all a game, and there are winners, but they change, and certainly don't make the rules. Nature does.
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Re: The elite's plan

Unread postby Zardoz » Tue 11 Apr 2006, 01:26:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chicagoan', ' ') They will be as the Gods of Olympus were to the ancient Greeks. When the majority of the planet is armed only with sticks and stones, and they are armed with ICBMS, Nobody will stand a chance against them.
You're serious about this, aren't you. LOL. Watch the movie Zardoz, I think you'll like it.



It's the greatest really, really bad movie ever made.
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