Everyone,
What do you think life will be like on Earth on the last day of the millenium? How will the arrival of the year 3000 be celebrated? I would bet if we could travel in time we would see a civilization very, very different from ours or maybe no civilization at all.
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12/31/2999
by Jogger » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 00:18:53
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Re: 12/31/2999
by dissimulo » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 01:09:56
I imagine the world in 2999 will look a lot like it did in the year 999.
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Re: 12/31/2999
by 0mar » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 03:19:33
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dissimulo', 'I') imagine the world in 2999 will look a lot like it did in the year 999.
doubt it. 1 thousand years is a very long time (to us non-geologists^^). I suspect humanity will make the transition out of the peak oil crisis circa 2100. By 3000, we probably would have settled much of the solar system, who knows, maybe even started some star colonies. Humanity we have probably delayed the aging process long enough that life expectancies are measured in centuries. That civilization will probably be a Type 1.7 or even Type 2. Tribal affliations will probably grow even stronger and religious debate and conflict will probably be the same level. On the whole though, it'll probably be a nice time and place to live in.
Peak oil is not a permanent reset button. 75+ years of advanced science won't go away and you can still do extraordinary science with the most basic of equipments. The literacy rate is extremely high (99%+ in most developed countries, even 3rd world countries have 70%+), we have literally silos full of knowledge. This isn't the Dark Ages, where only the nobles and clergy had access to knowledge and education. If need be, I'm sure that most anyone here can pick up an engineering booklet and construct structures, given the tools or manpower. The Egyptians 5000 years ago constructed Giza, the Sphinx and other magnificent monuments with nary a power tool. The civilizations of Central and South America constructed dozens of megaliths. The druids of England constructed Stone Henge. All this without any modern equipment.
Peak oil going to fuck us, cold and hard it's gonna fuck us (and by us, I mean this generation, the next and possibly the one after that), but there's no reason to think that we're going to go back to a hunter gatherer, pre-industrial civilization. We are going to radically change how we conduct business, move around and things like that, but on the whole, humanity will progress out of peak oil for the better.
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Re: 12/31/2999
by Novus » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 07:05:41
I think the real danger super long term is climate change, a problem that will not be solved by 2100. The world may very well be in the grips of an ice age by the year 3000. Picture New York and London buried under a mile of ice. Human population might be under a million by then and the concept of the year 3000 forgotten.
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Re: 12/31/2999
by bochen787 » Mon 10 Apr 2006, 11:05:14
12/31/2999
America Avarice pisses of the fabric of space-time so much that the
whole universe collapse under the cosmos energy budget dificit.
From nothing to nothing, we are living on borrowed prosperity, literally.
America Avarice pisses of the fabric of space-time so much that the
whole universe collapse under the cosmos energy budget dificit.
From nothing to nothing, we are living on borrowed prosperity, literally.
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Re: 12/31/2999
by Omnitir » Tue 11 Apr 2006, 08:40:22
In a thousand years civilisation will likely be as different from us, as we are from pre Stone Age humans. For one thing we will possibly transcend biological constraints. Artificial intelligence, molecular reconstruction and fabrication…
The other side of the technological singularity is impossible to predict.
But more importantly, and probably in less then 50 years, I think we will look back and wonder why people were so constantly terrified of the future.
The other side of the technological singularity is impossible to predict.
But more importantly, and probably in less then 50 years, I think we will look back and wonder why people were so constantly terrified of the future.
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Re: 12/31/2999
by Jogger » Tue 11 Apr 2006, 15:36:42
There's nothing dumb about my question...
I think some of you are a bit too optimistic about the future. Our population is growing rapidly, our resources are diminishing, and the Earth is getting hotter. There is the strong possibility of a huge die-off. Climate change will be an obstacle. And what about volcanoes? Suppose a super volcano erupts? This could cause the extinction of 90% of all life on Earth. An asteroid may collide with the Earth. A supernova or other event somewhere in space may cause problems. There are a lot of natural events that could lead to a catastrophe.
2 space shuttles have exploded and there have been other problems with NASA. It will indeed be a big challenge to colonize space.
I think some of you are a bit too optimistic about the future. Our population is growing rapidly, our resources are diminishing, and the Earth is getting hotter. There is the strong possibility of a huge die-off. Climate change will be an obstacle. And what about volcanoes? Suppose a super volcano erupts? This could cause the extinction of 90% of all life on Earth. An asteroid may collide with the Earth. A supernova or other event somewhere in space may cause problems. There are a lot of natural events that could lead to a catastrophe.
2 space shuttles have exploded and there have been other problems with NASA. It will indeed be a big challenge to colonize space.
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Re: 12/31/2999
by bochen787 » Tue 11 Apr 2006, 15:55:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jogger', 'T')here's nothing dumb about my question...
I think some of you are a bit too optimistic about the future. Our population is growing rapidly, our resources are diminishing, and the Earth is getting hotter. There is the strong possibility of a huge die-off. Climate change will be an obstacle. And what about volcanoes? Suppose a super volcano erupts? This could cause the extinction of 90% of all life on Earth. An asteroid may collide with the Earth. A supernova or other event somewhere in space may cause problems. There are a lot of natural events that could lead to a catastrophe.
2 space shuttles have exploded and there have been other problems with NASA. It will indeed be a big challenge to colonize space.
I think some of you are a bit too optimistic about the future. Our population is growing rapidly, our resources are diminishing, and the Earth is getting hotter. There is the strong possibility of a huge die-off. Climate change will be an obstacle. And what about volcanoes? Suppose a super volcano erupts? This could cause the extinction of 90% of all life on Earth. An asteroid may collide with the Earth. A supernova or other event somewhere in space may cause problems. There are a lot of natural events that could lead to a catastrophe.
2 space shuttles have exploded and there have been other problems with NASA. It will indeed be a big challenge to colonize space.
Jogger, I agree with you. People are WAY to optimistic about the future.
The only good thing is your subjective universe lasts only for the duration of your lifetime. So it doesn't matter what happens in a future without 'you'. Personally I think humanity will end before 2500.
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Re: 12/31/2999
by strider3700 » Tue 11 Apr 2006, 19:18:03
Even as an ultra doomer I expect humanity to survive at least 500 more years. Civilization on the other hand...
shame on us, doomed from the start
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
god have mercy on our dirty little hearts
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