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Re: If they can't handle living without their mobiles....

Unread postby Doch » Fri 24 Mar 2006, 06:33:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '
')One of the biggest changes wrought by the Feminists - as yet unappreciated - is how very few "modern" (post-feminist) girls know how to cook. Remember: "Cooking" was denounced as part of the "male-dominated patriarchy", same as "Cleaning" or "being clean" (rhetorical question: what the heck is a female dominated patriarchy? Or is this just yet another example of the empty tautologies that Feminisim is so famous for?).

Beleive me, after having travelled as often on Public Transport as I have, the number of females who do not practice even the basics of hygene are ...worryingly large. These girls reek.

The thing that has constantly surprised me is how good most younger guys are around the kitchen and see it as no big deal, whereas their girlfriends couldn't boil an egg. One of my mate's sons gets his big kicks out of mercilessly teasing his girlfriend about how useless she is in terms of cooking (he's a wizz). This is an area, Post Peak Oil, that will prove one of the most difficult. If you can't cook (for yourself) clean (for yourself) and generally look after yourself, you will be seen as an unneccessary burden upon others. I honestly don't know how things will go then for anyone who doesn't know things like cooking.



Oh yeah, I’m doing a bit of Sociology study so I’m to my neck in the Feminism stuff. I’m not too bad in the kitchen, but I’ve realised that there’s actually a heap of things that I have to become more hands on with – mechanics etc.

I was on the bus again today and noticed a sign on the back of a truck which read “If trucks stop, Australia stops”. I don’t even know what the message was supporting, but it made me think for a moment about the predicament our Nation will find itself in post PO. Second only to the US in terms of a dramatically negative impact upon an industrialised society, do you think, ubercynicmeister? I'm up in Brisbane, what's your view from regional Australia?
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Re: If they can't handle living without their mobiles....

Unread postby Doly » Fri 24 Mar 2006, 07:10:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '
')The thing that has constantly surprised me is how good most younger guys are around the kitchen and see it as no big deal, whereas their girlfriends couldn't boil an egg.


I'll tell you a little secret: a lot of those girls who claim to be unable to cook can actually cook well enough for the purposes of feeding themselves, if necessary. Not great cooks, but can do. I know because I'm one of those girls that has mercilessly got all her boyfriends to cook for her. In the times I've been single, I've managed fine.

On the other hand, I'm amazed at the number of boys that nowadays can't do the simplest DIY stuff. I had to give my ex-husband detailed instructions for putting up shelves. Like putting up shelves was rocket science.
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Re: If they can't handle living without their mobiles....

Unread postby ubercynicmeister » Fri 24 Mar 2006, 19:35:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doch', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', '
')One of the biggest changes wrought by the Feminists - as yet unappreciated - is how very few "modern" (post-feminist) girls know how to cook. Remember: "Cooking" was denounced as part of the "male-dominated patriarchy", same as "Cleaning" or "being clean" (rhetorical question: what the heck is a female dominated patriarchy? Or is this just yet another example of the empty tautologies that Feminisim is so famous for?).

Beleive me, after having travelled as often on Public Transport as I have, the number of females who do not practice even the basics of hygene are ...worryingly large. These girls reek.

The thing that has constantly surprised me is how good most younger guys are around the kitchen and see it as no big deal, whereas their girlfriends couldn't boil an egg. One of my mate's sons gets his big kicks out of mercilessly teasing his girlfriend about how useless she is in terms of cooking (he's a wizz). This is an area, Post Peak Oil, that will prove one of the most difficult. If you can't cook (for yourself) clean (for yourself) and generally look after yourself, you will be seen as an unneccessary burden upon others. I honestly don't know how things will go then for anyone who doesn't know things like cooking.



Oh yeah, I’m doing a bit of Sociology study so I’m to my neck in the Feminism stuff.


Try to keep a straight face...you need to read "The Myth Of Male Power" by Warren Farrell, a book I re-read regularly. It'll give you all sorts of real insights (not the false variety offered by the Feminist liars) into the male/female divide. The one that Feminism opened so wide it's now unbridgeable, if you ask me. Warren Farrell's book is a REAL eye-opener:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Warren Farrell', '.')..in Australia....domestic violence in now defined to include a man raising his voice to his wife - 'the domestic decibel rule'.


And people wonder why Australian guys don't want to get married? I wonder how many Feminists advertise the fact that "domestic violence" is now defined as "talking in a loud voice" (wow, I'm impressed). Of course, if you're married and actually do raise your voice...God Help You because our Society certainly won't.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')I’m not too bad in the kitchen, but I’ve realised that there’s actually a heap of things that I have to become more hands on with – mechanics etc.


It's interesting, but any male who shows the slightest interest in being mechanical is automatically derided by females: "Oh, all he can think about is..." (brakes, gearboxes, motors, steam locomotives, insert whatever male interest you like here), yet when the guys STOP showing an interest in such things the females condemn the same men:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'I')'m amazed at the number of boys that nowadays can't do the simplest DIY stuff. I had to give my ex-husband detailed instructions for putting up shelves.


In other words, after decades of condemning men for having an interest in "being practical" we are now to condemn men for dropping their interest in being practical? Wonderful.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doch', 'I') was on the bus again today and noticed a sign on the back of a truck which read “If trucks stop, Australia stops”. I don’t even know what the message was supporting,


Methinks it supports the trucking industry. What did you expect? The truck to have a sign saying: "Ignore me, and send all of your goods by other means"?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doch', 'b')ut it made me think for a moment about the predicament our Nation will find itself in post PO. Second only to the US in terms of a dramatically negative impact upon an industrialised society, do you think, ubercynicmeister?

The "impact" of spending zillions of dollars on roads, instead of railways, will be that those Freeways you see will become little more than gigantic advertisements for the Post World War 2 stupidity, especially the 1950's version. Who's gunna drive a car on 'em when Oil costs (say) $300 per barrel? Or a truck for that matter?

Railways are 6.5 to 9 times more fuel efficient than road transport.

One railway is capable of transporting 11 freeways' worth of traffic.

One freeway built through lightly undulating country with no major watercourses to cross costs about Australian $25 million per km to build.

A railway (remember: carrying 11 times more traffic) costs $3 million to $5 million per km through the same type of country. If you wish to limit the speed to only 100 km/h you can get away with building the railway for only $1 million per km.

If you want to electrify the railway, you'll need to add about $5 million per km.

A diesel locomotive capable of hauling 2100 tonnes up the average grade of 1 in 50 costs (about) $5.2 million, or $2476 per tonne hauled (a modern steam locomotive costs about 1/2 that).

A truck which can legally haul 35 tonnes costs (it is said) $500,000 per unit, or $14,285 per tonne hauled. That's a cheap truck, too.

A locomotive can go from Melbourne to Brisbane on (about) 10,000 litres of fuel. At their most efficient, 3.5 litres per km, a locomotive can do it for slightly under 8,000 litres of fuel, but that is dependant on very high standards of maintenance, which are sometimes not given.

8,000 litres of fuel @ $1.07 per litre = $8560 for 2100 tonnes over 2180 km or $4.076 per tonne or 0.18 cents per tonne-km.

A truck would cost you at LEAST 6.5 times that, if not 9 times that.

The ONLY WAY the trucking industry has survived is a massive tax-payer subsidy on EVERYTHING and that subsidy must end someday, especially as Oil gets so expensive that trucks simply cannot afford to use it as a fuel.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doch', ' ')I'm up in Brisbane, what's your view from regional Australia?

My view from Regional Australia is that : we're screwed withever the Economic Rationalists are in power. They have decided that they can downsize EVERYTHING and then wonder why the services are no longer there.
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Re: If they can't handle living without their mobiles....

Unread postby Doch » Sat 25 Mar 2006, 11:31:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')ethinks it supports the trucking industry. What did you expect? The truck to have a sign saying: "Ignore me, and send all of your goods by other means"?


Yeah, obviously it was related to the trucking industry, but it didn't specify.

Thanks for those figures.
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Re: If they can't handle living without their mobiles....

Unread postby Kfish » Sat 01 Apr 2006, 01:56:41

Hey Doch, I'm also from Brisbane. Nice rain lately, hey? Makes you almost forget that some newspapers have been openly canvassing a reduction in the city's size due to lack of water. :shock: And SE Qld is the fastest growing metro area in Australia!

You're not wrong about the lack of coping skills. I'm widely regarded by my friends as a 'hippie' type due to the fact that I keep 3 chickens and grow the odd vegetable. Last night, I started a discussion on dumpster diving, and people who regularly say things like, "Well, my third level barbarian rogue just got a +1 to sneak rolls" called me a freak! :( The web of social taboo is just so strong, even when people admit there's no rational reason for it. You'd be amazed at the people who can raise prize roses but feel it beneath themselves to plant a spud.

Oh well. When the supermarkets are empty and the surburbanites roam the city in mobs, we will become kings and queens! We will have vast armies of post-yuppie serfs bowing before our wisdom! I personally plan to chain a 'Valley Girl' to my throne and make her whine for my amusement. :-D
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