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Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby DantesPeak » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 10:59:59

Ok, that's not really the title of this article by Jerome Corsi. However he is the person behind Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry. He could have also titled the article "Why is GWB so dumb that he can't find oil in the GOM?".

Remember I am only the messenger here. Dante spoke of a special place for a certain type of person, heratics, who should be doomed to spend the hereafter in the sixth circle of heck.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Mexico Discovers Giant Oil Field in Gulf

From a policy point of view, we have to ask why President Bush continues to believe we must prepare for a world running out of oil. Even before the new Mexican discovery, the Energy Information Agency's own figures estimate proven world oil reserves at 1.28 billion, more than ever in human history, despite world consumption nearly doubling since the 1970s. Right now, world markets are so awash in oil that even voting Iran's secret nuclear weapons program to the Security Council has not caused oil prices to spike extraordinarily. Oil prices fell this week on U.S. Energy Department supply reports that said U.S. crude oil inventories rose by 4.8 billion barrels last week, to 339.9 million barrels, approximately 10% above levels a year ago. None of this sounds like we are running out of oil any time soon.

Maybe President Bush's agenda is to keep America dependent upon foreign oil. The administration continues to argue that America's "oil addiction" will only be solved if we resolve to turn more wood chips into biofuel. Perhaps Bush should consult with Sen. Teddy Kennedy (D.-Mass.) to inquire how the windmill project off Cape Cod is doing these days.

Or maybe the United States is the only country that cannot find enough oil in the Gulf to become oil sufficient. Today, we already import some 1.75 million barrels a day from Mexico, a figure that is likely to increase. We wonder if continued access to Mexican oil is the real reason why President Bush sees no problem accepting 4 million to 5 million illegal immigrants a year invading America across our wide open southern border.


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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby pup55 » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 11:13:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1').28 billion


Well to start with, his units are off.

I think he means 1.28 trillion.
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby ClassicSpiderman » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 11:24:15

I heard this guy on Coast to Coast AM talking about abiotic oil--man I can't stand him. He is the cornucopians' poster boy.

He is right about criticizing Bush's immigration policy regarding Mexico, however. Funny how he published a book to denounce John Kerry. I wonder if in hindsight he wished he had directed his "Unfit for Command" vitriol towards Bush instead.

I do agree that the oil companies stand to benefit a lot from the peak oil crisis. In fact, I don't think it's that far-fetched for these companies to deliberately hold back production in order to cash in. That doesn't make the peak oil theory a conspiracy put out by the oil companies, that just confirms one of the symptoms of peak oil--tighter spare capacity means that it is easier for the oil barons to manipulate the market for their own ends.

The entire conspiracy theory regarding the NWO boils down to elites manipulating the market conditions for their own profit. Why was billionaire George Soros so opposed to Bush in the 2004 election? Probably because Bush was bad for his hedge fund business. Why do the elites want world government run by unelected committee? For $$$. Globalization benefits the top 50 richest people in the world while they implement their global techno plantation.
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby ClassicSpiderman » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 11:27:48

Another thing, if the USA is so awash with oil as Mr. Corsi claims it is, it would be in the best interest of the US government to become self-sufficient with regards to oil and natural gas supply. The US has to import 60% of it's energy needs.
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby killJOY » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 11:28:32

Peak oil = comet Kohoutek.
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby DantesPeak » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 11:36:13

Welcome ClassicSpiderman.

Corsi overlooks the fact that even Mexico admits it will take $27.5 billion and twenty years to develop the new oil find. This is a major problem because of the state control of Mexico's oil industry and the difficulty and uncertainty of drilling in the GOM (think hurricanes).

I suppose when Canterell drains completely out in just a few more years they might reconsider their nationalism and take the development money from the Gringo (or Arab or Infidel or whomever) after all.

GWB just appointed a new Secretary of Interior who's top priority is to develop ANWAR, so this is indeed another case of Corsi swiftboating a true volunteer for the cause.
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby ClassicSpiderman » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 11:58:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', 'W')elcome ClassicSpiderman.

Corsi overlooks the fact that even Mexico admits it will take $27.5 billion and twenty years to develop the new oil find. This is a major problem because of the state control of Mexico's oil industry and the difficulty and uncertainty of drilling in the GOM (think hurricanes).

I suppose when Canterell drains completely out in just a few more years they might reconsider their nationalism and take the development money from the Gringo (or Arab or Infidel or whomever) after all.

GWB just appointed a new Secretary of Interior who's top priority is to develop ANWAR, so this is indeed another case of Corsi swiftboating a true volunteer for the cause.


Thanks for the warm welcome. At first I only read your quotes from the article but this time I read the whole thing. His hardcore belief in the abiotic theory aside, it's quite amusing to hear this shill for George Bush turning against him. If the King of the swiftboaters doesn't like Bush anymore, what friends does Bush have left? ;)

If the abiotic people believe that unlimited oil exists several miles into the Earth, they should put their money where their mouth is and invest in these projects. When they make billions of dollars and solve the energy crisis I will gladly eat crow :)
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby mekrob » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 13:41:11

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '1').28 billion


Well to start with, his units are off.

I think he means 1.28 trillion.


Apparently you haven't read his book, well neither have I. Only a few pages were worth the time. He constantly makes these common mistakes. It's so sad. I can't believe people buy this guy and his shitty book. There's money on the cover, which naturally entices people, and then talk about the conspiracy against the American people and how we can overcome it. All you have to do is send $20 bucks to Corsi to help liberate this oil. Only scam artists don't have the time to check over simple mistakes like a billion instead of a trillion. He would constantly say stuff like "The EIA estimates there are 1.28 billion barrels left in the world, but this hack, Colin Cambell, says there are only 800 billion barrels, half a thousand barrels less than the common estimates."
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby untothislast » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 13:46:34

Just how fast do those swiftboats go on ethanol?
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Pique » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 14:41:58

Amazing. It hurts my brain to read this:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')The EIA estimates there are 1.28 billion barrels left in the world, but this hack, Colin Cambell, says there are only 800 billion barrels, half a thousand barrels less than the common estimates."


Is this proof that the swiftboaters are completely insane?
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 15:20:49

My favorite is when he starts railing about how deepwater oil proves that oil is abiotic, since no dinosaurs ever walked on the bottom of the ocean. :roll:
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Free » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 16:10:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'M')y favorite is when he starts railing about how deepwater oil proves that oil is abiotic, since no dinosaurs ever walked on the bottom of the ocean. :roll:


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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Tyler_JC » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 16:20:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Leanan', 'M')y favorite is when he starts railing about how deepwater oil proves that oil is abiotic, since no dinosaurs ever walked on the bottom of the ocean. :roll:


Well that's just silly.

There were no dinosaurs.

God put all of those bones and fossils into His Earth in order to confuse humanity and to seperate the True Believes from the evil heathen "scientists".

Just like God created homosexuals, liberals, abortionists, and atheists in order to force the True Believers to fight a protracted war against them and their kind.

I love how the above is considered logical thought by so many of my delusional countrymen.

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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby eastbay » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 16:41:37

Only 48% of Americans believe in Evolution...and that number is dropping!

You watch Tyler!

When that number reaches 25% or so, I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a jailable offence to question creationism. Thought-crime legislation has spread all over the world and has become a 'normal' and 'accepted' legal response to unpopular beliefs.
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby mekrob » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 16:41:50

"I have a hard time believing in evolution. I guess it's because no one could explain to me why there are still monkeys around if we evolved from them. I mean, George W Bush got over the hump. What's with those monkeys?" -Kathleen Madigan.

Who said he made it over the hump?
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Leanan » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 17:06:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')lease tell me you are joking!


I wish I were:

At 30,000 feet down, where were the dinosaurs?
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Ancien_Opus » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 17:45:27

Ordovician is the period just after Cambrian period that is attributed to the formation of oil. This period would have only primative algae, crustaceans and microorganisms with relatively low decomposition rates thus allowing for the mass accumulation of biological debris. Typically in shallow seas eventually and geologically capped by salt domes.

It would be many millions of years later that the carbonaceous "coal forming forest" would occur. The age of giant trees and insects.

Then many more millions of years later that Triassic, Jurrasic and Cretaceous dinosaurs would rule the earth.
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Free » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 17:47:06

From the above linked comical horror:

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Even those who might stretch to argue that even if no dinosaurs ever died in sedimentary rock that today lies 30,000 feet below the surface, might still argue that those levels contain some type of biological debris that has transformed into natural gas. That argument, a stretch at 30,000 feet down, is almost impossible to make for basement structure bedrock. Japan's Nagaoka and Niigata fields produce natural gas from bedrock that is volcanic in nature. What dinosaur debris could possibly be trapped in volcanic rock found at deep-earth levels?

Deep-earth natural gas strongly supports the theory that the origin of oil is abiotic, not organic in nature. Moreover, natural gas is being found abundantly at deep-earth levels around the world – so much so that the deep-earth discoveries of natural gas are increasing worldwide natural gas reserve estimates to the point where "Peak-Production" theories are being challenged as well. But that will have to be the subject of another column.

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I don't know, it sounds very convincing, that dinosaur debris stuff is really dubious, you can easily prove that with an experiment:

Just take a bit of crocodile-meat and leave it, does it turn into oil? No! Before long it will be eaten by flies and such, geez, how could we ever buy into this fossil-fuel crap?
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Ancien_Opus » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 18:11:18

The signature of life is unmistakeable in oil.

You can get oils of similar quality from coal, vegetables and animals but not in any significant quantity from nonsedimentary rocks. The chemistry of heat and pressure in the abscense of oxygen eventually yield methane. Since methane (fully saturated carbon with hydrogen) is a stable chemical molecule, it's found geologically and in small amounts where there is a distinct abscence of oxygen. Deep sea methane hydrates and volcanic out gassing. If you want it in abundance then you look for "fossil" deposits, ruminants, peat bogs, anaerobic digesters or garbage dumpts.

Perhaps you should go back to attempting to turn lead into gold. Your opportunity of success is just about on even par with finding abiotic oil.

Good luck,
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Re: Swiftboaters Speak Out Against PO

Unread postby Free » Fri 17 Mar 2006, 18:19:35

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ancien_Opus', '
')Perhaps you should go back to attempting to turn lead into gold. Your opportunity of success is just about on even par with finding abiotic oil.

Good luck,


If Corsi sells any of his books he is already ahead, as he will have managed to turn shit into gold.
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