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I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby mekrob » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 17:08:44

I keep trying to inform some people of the rough times ahead on the forum at gasprices.com. All I get is the same hogwash "ITS BUSHS FAULT" 'KILL BUSH'. I ask them why they think he's responsible and they just ignore me and blabber away about how Bush did us in. There are people whom you just can't help nor feel sorry for them the crap hits the fan and they starve to death. I told ya buddy many times. Still sticking to "Bush did it' when he's out of office and some Commie Democrat is while you die? Hope that makes you feel better.

Sorry, I just had to vent.

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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby Clouseau2 » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 17:21:27

It's only as much Bush's fault as it is every President's fault going back to Carter.

It's not like the Democrats have any more spine. Remember back when Kerry was campaigning and people somehow got the idea that maybe we should stop buying gas guzzlers and actually be responsible with energy? Whoah, Kerry had to go out and tell everyone that buying SUVs was what every patriot should go out and do immediately. Glad we corrected that little mistake.

I just get sick and tired of correcting the "OPEC conspiracy"/"technology will fix everything" BS people keep on spewing.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 17:32:24

Oh good, I thought I was the only one. I've given lots of people plenty of opportunity to prepare themselves, and they all laughed at me. Screw 'em.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby lutherquick » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 17:34:57

Well, you are lucky.

I started telling folks and they call me a traitor, unpatriotic, a commie, whatever…
Some went as far as to threaten… and to the point where the law visited me, like witch hunting, you know? for democracy, the war on terror, yea he lied, but the cause was good, right? The more property or money they have the more creative they are at strong arming the person delivering the message. If you see reality then you are a bastard… Humans are designed for the middle of the road… Most people can only see averaged trends; they are incapable of seeing edges or frontal waves… they only see what they want to see, that which will power their exponential growth… Peak oil gets in the way of that new SUV, plasma TV, liposuction, or size 100 jeans…

The way I look at it now is like this. If you believe in peak oil, like me, keep your mouth shut; think what will life be like in post peak? What will be in demand that can be supplied? Learn to make money in that world. As economies recede and collapse there will be allot of wealth transfer even as wealth shrinks.

Keep you mouth shut and get wealthy.

In the end, brains will win… The world will be very intelligent after this crash…

Learn to use the stupid ones… I stopped fighting long ago.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 17:43:48

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mekrob', 'S')till sticking to "Bush did it' when he's out of office and some Commie Democrat is while you die?


Please, dear Americans, the democrats are not communist. The have socialist leanings where as the republicans have corporist leanings.

But compared to the rest of the world you have to far right wing parties.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 18:16:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', '
')In the end, brains will win…


I disagree. Unless the brains can barricade themselves in, the gun-toting survivalist alpha males will be running the show. Might makes right!
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby mekrob » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 18:17:51

That's not exactly what I meant. These guys really wouldn't care if Commies took over, and some would actually prefer it. They want gas lines a mile long. They want shortages. As long as they get gas for a buck, they don't care.

I hate to say it, but lutherquick is basically right. This is prime time to make a lotta dough and come out alive in this. I just hate looking at it so negatively and evil ish: that just let everyone else suffer while we reap the 'benefits'. I'm not gonna stop trying to warn people, just not 'those' people.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby MicroHydro » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 18:37:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lutherquick', 'K')eep you mouth shut and get wealthy.

In the end, brains will win… The world will be very intelligent after this crash…

Learn to use the stupid ones… I stopped fighting long ago.


Yep, I have enjoyed a 160% capital gain in the past 12 months, quietly taking advantage of human stupidity. There will be a dieoff, but I am doing everything in my power to make sure my extended family comes through ok. Wasting energy trying to educate fools is counter productive, we need them to make the wrong choices. As for the dread alpha males, they can be bought cheaply and will work for whoever provides them with three hots and a cot.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 18:42:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MicroHydro', 'Y')ep, I have enjoyed a 160% capital gain in the past 12 months, quietly taking advantage of human stupidity.


In the bank? As gold? Still as a worthless paper 'evaluation on house value'? Realised as extracting more money by raising another loan on the paper evaluation?

Unless your wealth is in tangible assets that retain their value, money is not a safe store, eg remember hyperinflation, secondly property rights mean nothing if the situation changes eg, Communist government, gold sequestration, Pol Pot back to year 1 etc.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby mekrob » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 19:01:05

I'm just a kid, so forgive me. How exactly can you (well, I in this case) secure my funds by getting gold? Just going to a jewelery store? I'd like to get gold, platinum and other precious metals. Any place I can just straight up buy a barrel of oil? I got a few hundred. Damn, I need a job.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby FossilFool » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 19:32:58

I have complained about Bush about the war and the environment. I have even protested the war. I carried a sign against the oil war without understanding how much the US needed the oil. But now, I am sick of Bush being blamed for everything and talking about all of these inane issues. I always thought he was more like a symptom, but I just can't listen to people talking about Bush from the typical shallow analysis anymore while they seem so satisfied on how deep they are being.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby greenworm » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 19:47:24

The democrats have a leftist leaning, but they too like to bomb people. Clinton did it as well don't forget. Why don't americans start voting for libertarians or Ralph Nader? Hilary and McCain (and whatever other crony they'll try to run) are too connected to the war machine, why not a new perspective? I asked this same question to somebody in 2004 and their reply was "why would I vote for them, they aren't going to win, only democrats and republicans win". Well, that logic is strong :cry:
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby aldente » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 20:14:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('greenworm', 'T')he democrats have a leftist leaning, but they too like to bomb people.


However, under an Al Gore there would not have been an Irak invasion, that is for sure. In that sense those who blame Bush are right to a certain degree, then again in the larger scheme of things these are all just details that influence the speed at which events will reach their climax.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby loopy » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 20:15:19

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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby threadbear » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 20:16:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rogerhb', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MicroHydro', 'Y')ep, I have enjoyed a 160% capital gain in the past 12 months, quietly taking advantage of human stupidity.


In the bank? As gold? Still as a worthless paper 'evaluation on house value'? Realised as extracting more money by raising another loan on the paper evaluation?

Unless your wealth is in tangible assets that retain their value, money is not a safe store, eg remember hyperinflation, secondly property rights mean nothing if the situation changes eg, Communist government, gold sequestration, Pol Pot back to year 1 etc.


Roger, YOu have no idea how funny your post is. You can be forgiven as you are likely unfamiliar with the formidable talents of MHydro.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby seldom_seen » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 20:29:59

Did you ever read about the British geologist who went all around Indonesia and the region telling leaders and warning people of the imminent earthquake and tsunami? No one would listen and he resorted to printing and posting flyers with his own money.

I wish it wasn't true, but trying to wake people up to PO usually ends in frustration and just giving up. The peak oil tsunami is coming and most people will be as unprepared as they were for the tsunami that hit Indonesia.
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Re: Holy Shit!!! I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby rogerhb » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 20:59:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'I') wish it wasn't true, but trying to wake people up to PO usually ends in frustration and just giving up.


Concentrate on nearest and dearest, then on your preparation. Trying to alert others is a waste of effort. Been there, done that.
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Re: I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby greenworm » Thu 16 Feb 2006, 21:23:04

Albente,

That is only because good ol' Al Gore is Occiental Petroleum's bitch. He is more concerned about hushing up the indigenious people of U’wa and funding the colombian rebels against them. I guess he is smarter in the sense that he is picking on an indigenious tribe, they tend not to put up as much a fight. Still a big coward if you ask me.
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Re: I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby aldente » Fri 17 Feb 2006, 02:53:21

The fact that there is a relationship with Gore Vidal counterweights your point.
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Re: I can't take it anymore!

Unread postby greenworm » Fri 17 Feb 2006, 12:03:20

Albente,

What does Gore Vidal have to do with my point? I am basing my facts on a) Gore is heavily invested with Occiental. b) Gore refused to talk to the U'wa tribes. c)follow the money, lotta lotta money going to colombian rebels due to Clinton being chummy with Gore. I stand my point. Please provide some more information on how Gore Vidal is connected in this. I am open to the truth.
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