[FossilFool]

I have had PO dreams. Dreams about TSHTF, wall street crash, and what I do. Dreams about meeting people out in the woods. Dreams about not meeting anyone and being all by myself in the woods. Dreams of people chasing me for what I am carrying with knives wanting to kill me. Dreams of telling people I know what we need to do.

[gego]

We all, no doubt, have heard that psychologists think that the people and objects in our dreams represent something else in disguise.

As for my dreams of naked women, I conclude that the breasts represent the cones on the forefront of the blade of a windmill. The pubic hair represents swithch grass. The vagina represents an oil well needing to be drilled.

Yea, I am truly dreaming of peak oil, only I thought it was about sex. Isn't his a strange world.

[gg3]

Yo guys, snark isn't helpful here.

Re. dream symbolism: usually dreams are fairly literal; and symbols are often particular to individuals. One person's interpretation may not be right for another.

Dreams *are* a useful input to your problem solving. Basically what happens in dreaming is, during sleep your brain is doing general neurophysiological cleanup, just as the rest of your body is resting & rebuilding. The cleanup routines in the brain create the neural equivalent of white noise, and the brain, being optimized for pattern-recognition, imparts a story and characters to the noise flow (a similar mechanism is responsible for LSD trips: white noise turned into patterns).

The content that is imparted to the white noise is derived from items of interest to the individual, for which there has not been adequate time to think about during the waking day. In essence, stuff you didn't give yourself time to process while awake, is sitting in a queue waiting for processing time, and gets it while you're asleep. Thought processes during sleep operate very slowly, many times more slowly than during the waking state; but nonetheless, thought occurs. And this becomes an input to the sensory representations in dreams.

Another aid to dream recall is to not wake up to a radio or other content. Use an ordinary alarm clock if you must, but a light connected to a timer can be better if your bedroom can be kept dark otherwise. When you wake up, don't let your mind become preoccupied with a song or other content that runs automatically. Memories of dreams are often initially difficult to distinguish from memories of waking activities: you'll have a feeling about something in much the same way as you would toward a normal memory. Learn to observe quietly and follow the observation process without trying to direct it.

Of interest, very often we make event forecasts in our dreams, usually based on information we perceive during the waking day but aren't paying attention to. When enough such information accumulates that the brain can find a pattern in it, the pattern gets converted to a dream story plot and characters. Very often these forecasts are reasonably on target.

So it might be interesting for us to start posting relevant dreams in topic such as this one, and see if there are any event forecasts in common that are about items which are not already known or easily foreseeable. For example we all think that certain things are going to happen in the future; what's more interesting is to go for the cases were the forecast was not obvious. It's one thing to say there'll be war with Iran; it's another to have a dream that accurately pegs a detail based on an extrapolation from a minor news item read some weeks ago.

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As for me, yes, I often have dreams about probable futures. Recently there was a series of dreams that had to do with evacuation scenarios. The persistent feeling is something like, "oh s---!, here we go again, when will this ever stop?!"

[o2ny]

To paraphrase freud, 'sometimes a vagina is just a vagina'.

gg- very educational post. The predictive nature of dreams is not something that should be overlooked. Especially now; PO is bringing us to a time where any deeper insight into decision-making is extremely helpful.

[PrairieMule]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AmericanEmpire', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he vagina represents an oil well needing to be drilled.

[PenultimateManStanding]

This is close but not quite there: I had a dream last night about a bunch of vicious creepy mice that I had to kill.

[Raxozanne]

I distinctly remember having a dream where I was trying to explain the concept of peak oil to someone, unfortunately it ended up with me screaming at them. Must be a reflection on how everyone I try to tell just doesn't want to know.

[Laurasia]

My job involves some proofreading of correspondence, and last Saturday morning I dreamt that I was reading a letter which had a strange quote in the body of the text, written in very archaic, convoluted English. I remember reading it and reading it and finally GETTING it. In my dream I turned to a colleague and basically paraphrased: "and the rich, as they have always done, will take from the poor, in these coming times of trouble." and then in that half-awake time following a vivid dream, I felt as if I had made a prophecy and that it concerned the end of my way of life.

Regards,

L.

[threadbear]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')his is close but not quite there: I had a dream last night about a bunch of vicious creepy mice that I had to kill.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '
')I had a dream I was hanging out with a group of vicious mice and we were setting up some kind of glue trap in an apartment. Weird.

[Atlantean_Relic]

I have three dreams from last year that have stuck with me. I had them before I found out about peak oil.

The first is a dream where I'm sitting on one bank of a ditch in front of a local supermarket. I was just sitting there watching the cars drive by and the largest tree on the other side of the road. Then a girl came up to ask me what I was doing. At that moment from the other side of the parking lot people began screaming. A huge swarm of insects was flying out of the ground. I ran home to find they got there before me. The large beetle things had eaten all the leaves from the trees.

The Second had me tending a fig tree in my backyard as a prisoner. I had just finished pruning the tree when the guard who was a Chinese soldier decided to snap a branch in half just out of spite. I had gotten angry at that point and a female prisoner was trying to convince me to not be rash. I ignored her. I picked up a large trash can hit the guard over the head and killed him. Two other guards then detained me. I was then brought to the governor’s mansion to be executed. The Chinese Governor was having a party at the time and was dressed in a full tux. He told me I had earned his respect earlier and didn't enjoy executing me. He then took a large rifle and shot me in the head.

In the third one I was walking toward one of the larger road intersection in my city. A disaster had just happened and all the survivors were heading towards this one. When I got there This Televangelist dressed in an all white suit pushed his way toward the center. He then began offering all of us God's popcorn, telling us we would be blessed if we par took of it. I felt this guy had lost it. He offered it first to a young boy about ten. The boy took the popcorn and threw it into a nearby coulee. The televangelist jumped in after it and was swept away by the raging water within. I was glad to be rid of the maniac but felt the kid’s method was rude.

[FossilFool]

Last night, I had a dream that there was a oil well in my back yard that came up already refined as gasoline. I siphoned it to use some for something using a siphon and just sucking it out with my my mouth. But after I was was done, it just kept coming and I couldn't stop it and I was panicking and this other person was telling me to stop it but I couldn't. And that made that price go up a lot in my neighborhood after that because my well was the last well they were counting on and I wasted it all by spilling it everywhere. Quite an interesting dream.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FossilFool', 'L')ast night, I had a dream that there was a oil well in my back yard that came up already refined as gasoline. I siphoned it to use some for something using a siphon and just sucking it out with my my mouth. But after I was was done, it just kept coming and I couldn't stop it and I was panicking and this other person was telling me to stop it but I couldn't. And that made that price go up a lot in my neighborhood after that because my well was the last well they were counting on and I wasted it all by spilling it everywhere. Quite an interesting dream.

[Jack]

After 8 months, it seems reasonably on-target. If Iran gets more interesting, gasoline could well hit the 2007 price target.

[tmazanec1]

I don't mean a bad dream, but the stereotypical experience some scholars call "the Old Hag" where you wake up unable to move, a malevolent entity enters your room and tries to smother you by kneeling on your chest. I have heard that up to something like a quarter of the population has had this, and often not known that others have as well. It is possibly more common among imaginative people (like us). I once was in bed and wondered "what would it feel like to suffocate" and suddenly could not breathe...I shot bolt upright. Perhaps this was a very abnormal nightmare?
Anyone want to describe if they had this experience? It is something which always fascinated me, how different people in different cultures can have the same bizarre experience and not even know of others having the same one.

[Novus]

I had "the old Hag" a few times. It felt as if something was sitting on me. I do not think it was super natural. In order for you to dream your mind has to disconnect from the body. This is so you can move in your dream without moving your body. Sometimes you can wake up but you remain disconnected for a few minutes or sometime you disconnect before falling asleep. If this ever happens to you whatever you do don't try to look at it. Your mind will play a trick on you and might see a ghost or the greys (aliens) or whatever you are more inclined to beleive in. Just think about something else and you will regain the abilty to move in minute or two. I think it has a scientific name somewhere and it is responsible for millions of people beleiving in little green men for centuries.

[ironborne]

I know what you are talking about. When I was studying the occult I once tried astral traveling. It didn't work but apparently I was relaxed enough to imagine a demonic presence like a skull and it felt like it was sucking the life from me. I was fully awake and could see the alarm clock in the room but could not move.

For years I would have the same feeling that I couldn't move. It wasn't until almost a decade later that I heard about "old hag".

It hasn't happened for a long time but maybe just by telling others...

[Dreamtwister]

Old Hag Syndrome

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C') A U S E S

The most commonly reported cause of SP episodes is in fact stress.
It's believed that stress can seriously alter sleep patterns, causing episodes of sleep paralysis.
Another cause can be your sleeping position. Reports and research by Dr. J. A. Cheyne show that sufferers sleeping in the face up position are five times more likely to suffer an episode of sleep paralysis than others who attempt to sleep in a different position during normal sleep. Avoidance of sleeping on your back and attempting to not roll over into this position during the night is strongly advised. The use of a small squash or tennis ball placed behind your back can sometimes help with this.

[rushdy]

I don't get that, but I do get something else sometimes.

It seems to happen not long after I've been to sleep, I can't remember it happening any other time.

I'm lying there on my back asleep, eyes shut, properly asleep. Suddenly it's like someones pressed the 'main start' button. Click, I'm there, my eyes are still closed, I'm not seeing or hearing anything, or stringing thoughts together - but I know. I'm just there in this black silence for what feels like a few seconds.

Then suddenly, thud! It's like I've been thrown onto my bed from a great height, or punched through it into the floor. My heart beats strongly and I jolt with a gasp of air.

It feels like my hearts bloody stopped!

Does anyone else get that?

[Crazylegz]

This may seem strange to some. I accidentally sighned up to this board and subscribed unknowingly to hundreds of emails from you all everyday. I read some of these emails a day just to inform myself and try to learn more about peak oil and post peak oil. It seems like somthing so far fecthed and extreme but at the same time many have mentioned the fact of how ignorant society can be about these things. Alot of people trust government enough where they don't take action in making a self sustaining way of living...or maybe we're just lazy. Both perhaps.

I have read the doomsday scenarios, even though I hope the right people can spread the word enough and get the right kind of organization to help. I had a dream last night that shocked me.
The dream I had was the reality of a doomsday type scenario. (Dreamtime can be scued and my lucid dreaming skills are still limited).
At some point in this dream people started losing power and did not have a stable way of living anymore. In the dream this was fairly sudden, but in reality it would be more gradual I think. I remember in the dream realizng at a point that I recognized that this wasn't a temporary thing. I recognized this as "it" this is peak oil this was chaos people did not know what to do. I couldn't escape the feeling of impending doom. Everyone around me was acting crazy and erratic. there was one point in the dream where people were just running in droves and destroying everything. Taking food from each other in a very hostile way. I could feel the greed in the groups of people traveling around in a city/town type landscape. people were fighting for food and acting very irrational. I remember being very weary of everyone around me and feeling bad for the people I couldn't help. I truly realized that I was alone and only I knew what was actually going on. I knew one thing and that was that eventually I would need to eat...alot. People around me were stuffing their faces with food whenever they got it.
At one point I was in a department store with a whole bunch of people running around and felt some real bad vibes with some people. Now I'm a very muscualr individual who has fought plenty been in hostile enviroments and I play football semi-pro so I am used to being in chaotic situations. I am pretty confident in most situations but the atmospere that I was in was completely hectic and unpredictable. Some people in the store would seem to stop to check you out almost to analyze whether you were a threat. At one point I remember encountering a very large man who I felt a very aggressive vibe from almost as if he wanted to kill me for whatever reason. Around this point in the dream I found myself searching for knives and I found a few different types mostly pocket knives...one I grabbed was a small knife that fit on just two fingers and it looked like a talon of some kind. I kept this handy because it was easy too.
There were points where i wanted to stop and meet people but I felt I couldn't like I had to keep moving witha sense of urgency. I may have been in search for some kind of shelter and food. I remember at one point I was searching for one of the knives because there was someone or thing that seemed threatening. I was shuffling through my pocket and I ended up finding a knife I have now in real life. This is funny too because I keep telling myself I need more knives because they are such effective tools. Now that I think of it I may have used my knife slashing someone in the part of the dream where I encountered the large man and I think there were others like him maybe protecting somthing they had(food)? I just kept telling myself " this is it!this is really happening.peak oil." I couldn't believe it was really happening this way. Just like a complete riot. It was crazy to look around to see hordes of people just running frantically.
The last part of the dream I ended up in a house in a room that looked like a family had been eating at the table and left. I met some people who I felt a little safer with. Like we understood we had to gain control of where we were. Somehow I found a very large gun that looked like a super modified AK-47 it had three settings the first was just noise as if to scare people, the second was single shot and the thrid fully auto.( Boy video games seem to make weapons seem alot familiar.) I started testing the gun just to see what it was. I realized I never handled a gun like this before and it was very hard to control. Some people running through saw me with the gun a yelled and ran immediately. A guy I was with told me I needed to eat and I realized he was right I needed food. I stuffed my face with the families dinner they left and the dream ended shortly after.

Writing this I realize another dream I had that was somwhat similar. At a point people where just running in whordes and I saw my freind and tried to explain what was going on but he was going in a different direction than me . After that I thought of all the people I knew and wondered if I would ever see any of them again. Now these end of the world type scenarios aren't new to me I have a few but as I get older it seems liek I have had more of the. One thing I know is that there is always that sense of impending doom. Even though I always seem to meet up with the right people and find out or realize what's going on. One thing in life I do is always rty to figure out what's going on. I am alomst obssessed to the point where to try to figure why I'm here and where I am going and where humans came from. I am no scientist but I follow science and philosophy closely. More inmortantly I follow modern technology closely and feel like I am becoming a futurist of sorts always trying to figure out what's going to happen before it does. I know what type of self sustaining homes I want to have. I am planning on learning to farm and spreading the idea to all freinds perswistantly. I believe you have to choose wisely who you bring peak oil type things up to. I always casually joke about the future in this way sarcastically and often get weird looks or reaction but this often leads to people asking exactly what I mean which tells me they are interested. I believe I am creating a large network of people who believe in me and realize that I know some things they aren't completlewy aware of. Hopefully when the time comes I will be able to make the right moves to build an immensly properous community.
We will see what happens, but I appreciate everyones input here and attempt to help people other than them selves. One thing I will start to do is print out alot of info tho because I remember in the dream the thing I felt most lost abput is not having the internet to use to communicate and relay information.

-CraZyLegS-