[PenultimateManStanding]

Yep, that's it alright. We're screwed because of it.

[Vexed]

"Our knowledge is a receding mirage in an expanding desert of ignorance."
Will Durant

[Wildwell]

What do lawyers, actors and politicians have in common and why do they often shift between these roles?

In all fairness most people base their opinions on a set of core beliefs and perception (anyone who is really honest about human nature knows this) and they don’t let the facts get in the way, so why should our elected leaders who are interested in keeping in office? That’s why we’re screwed it’s Kunstler’s consensus trance on a world scale.

[coyote]

Yep, that was the point of posting the news article: even though it's not directly related to Peak Oil; yet it is. This is why I can't convince anybody...

[AmericanEmpire]

As crapattack said in one of his posts. People won't believe until we are in the shit.

But then they will look for scapgoats to blame. The damn environmentalists won't let us drill everywhere or the Arabs are withholding our oil.

[green_achers]

By the same token, those of us convinced by peak oil theory probably do the same thing...

[crapattack]

I think the conclusion of this very interesting study is that everyone is neutral about Tom Hanks.

[wildilocks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('crapattack', 'I') think the conclusion of this very interesting study is that everyone is neutral about Tom Hanks.

[shakespear1]

Part of the problem is that not everyone can be a petroleum engineer, a viral researched, climatologist etc. Consequently when the issue at hand enters one of these domains the person working in the field has a better grasp of the situation and the rest are left trying to figure out whom to believe. Throw in there misinformation and you get a lot of confused people and a few die hearts who a fanatical going against the grain of the majority beliefs.

My few cents of wisdom

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildilocks', 'P')roblem is now my heart is not in my business as my business is fashion-based, and will go under early on when PO hits.

[shakespear1]

Yehhh

How about clothing for people that will ride to work. Or things that work around the fact that people will have LESS Money and will need better quality clothing. Bags to carry groceries not by car but by bike. THINK and innovate.

Look at how the person will need to adjust to the changing environment and where you might be able to offer something.

[wildilocks]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wildilocks', 'P')roblem is now my heart is not in my business as my business is fashion-based, and will go under early on when PO hits.

[antspice]

would it be reasonable to assume the 2 subjects are "addicted" to good news or the lack of severely bad news?

[truecougarblue]

May I suggest a book that deals with this rational/emotional tug of war and is a good read?

Deep Survival by Laurence Gonzales. It's in stores now and I learned alot from it.

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ElijahJones', '.')..I see one subspecies that is characterized by higher emotional intelligence, higher technical ability and an ability to learn the skills of psycho-analysis and relational feedback. In general these people have an adaptable intelligence that seems to be selected for by a certain level of success in modern societies...Let me give a name to this supposed subspecies, Homo sapiens auricus...

[aldente]

All good points but not completely satisfactory in determining why a minute portion of the population seems to have no problem in understanding the meaning and consequences of PO, while the absolute vast number of individuals out there obviously posseses no receptors for these kind of projections. I guess there must be an additional uknown variable that prevents the kind of reasoning and train of thought that most here on this forum follow. So far I was not able to figure out what this variable is but it conclusively must exist!

[Zardoz]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('albente', '.')..while the absolute vast number of individuals out there obviously possess no receptors for these kind of projections.

[Zentric]

Albente wrote:

"All good points but not completely satisfactory in determining why a minute portion of the population seems to have no problem in understanding the meaning and consequences of PO, while the absolute vast number of individuals out there obviously posseses no receptors for these kind of projections. I guess there must be an additional uknown variable that prevents the kind of reasoning and train of thought that most here on this forum follow. So far I was not able to figure out what this variable is but it conclusively must exist!"

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'G')reat. Now the elderly blind can be depressed too.

[galacticsurfer]

Basic points everybody goes through in such things:

1)herd mentality-everyone follows everyone else and not a radical minority(PO people of first days were radical minority or Jimmy Carter)

2)follow the leader or trendsetter(all of those however are now in denial as their success depended on current oil dependent system)

3)never heard of it, not correctly presented(light bulb did not go on in head) or not by the right person(my most trusted TV news anchor, politician or actor or best friend).

4)personally not a specialist, too many conflicting opinions of experts, can't be sure(see global warming debate up until recently)

5)I see no real evidence as of today. the government would have certainly taken emergency measures, I mean like,the CIA must have known about it, right?. Even if it is real what can I do to change anything?

6) I am convinced, a peaknik, depressed and scared. I am now an outsider, a Cassandra(all of us here).

7) Late adapter - only watches soaps and plays computer games, PO becomes mainstream knowledge, TSHTF, shocked and screwed when pizza delivery service comes only by foot after two hours and the electricity is cut off in rolling blackouts.

still in denial way past peak-" it is all just a conspiracy of the trilateral commission, etc., etc. etc. "

9) Dead - buried with his pick up-on his tombstone the words "The American way of life is nonnegotiable"