[PenultimateManStanding]

Peak oil is enough to get my hackles up. Don't want it, got no use for it. My eldest daughter is finishing up her dreams in Europe playing volleyball. She hates the religion of her mother (Catholicism). Now her boyfriend is a Mormon who tells her to pray at night. She got her anti-religion from me. How will it turn out? My son, 16 years, met his darling in Japan. The mother of this girl turns out to be from San Diego, and now they are off on young person bike rides since they came back to California. Lovely coincidence. My next daughter is a freshman in high school. She's somehow my favorite, in spite of loving all of them. She has a senior boyfriend who is taking her to a dance. Her mother, who has love abundant, bought her a dress in spite of being broke. V used to be fat, but she switched to vegetarianism and is now svelt and lovely. She is the apple of my eye. The youngest, Rosie, has a special mystical rapport, and it is she that I place the most confidence in.

[PenultimateManStanding]

V is for Veronica. A lovely girl. Her parents and her siblings agree, that she is a lovely creature. She asks me for a remembrance of her childhood characteristics; my answer is that she used to laugh and cry simultaneously. We all laugh with recognition.

[jupiter422]

I know what you mean about love for ones children.I have told you all before ,but I have a seventeen month old daughter.There is no possible explanation for the love a parent has for there own child or children it is unexplainable.I know I couldn't be a more proud dad.Cailey is her name she has big blue eyes and curly Sue hair.She just learned how to say "ball" and she runs around saying it like a broken record.I was informed about peak oil,while my wife was pregnant.I would say that facing fatherhood gave me enough anxiety,but to throw peak oil on my shoulder to..It plain sucked. What can you do though? I just enjoy her every minute that I can and don't take a second for granted.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jupiter422', 'I') know what you mean about love for ones children

[Matrim]

I found out about peak oil just before my daughter Ember was born and at first it was a difficult thing to deal with. I mean no one really knows whats going to happen. I could be bringing a child into a world on it's deathbed for all I really know. But for myself, my daughter quickly became such a focal point of peace and happiness in my life that it is impossible on any level to feel bad about having had her. She is now 2 and 3 months, she also has a little brother now who just turned 1 his name is Matrim (shocker huh).

In the last 2 years or so since I found out about PO I've gone from "Oh my God the world's going to end and soon I've gotta do something" to " Chill there's nothing I can do so lets just keep our heads up and do the best we can" and I see my children as the reason for this. Without them I'd still be freaking out dwelling on the fact that the shits gonna hit the fan. Instead I've just accepted the fact that I live at the tail end of a waning civilization and that very likely I will have to adapt to a new style of life entirely before I die. Once I had kids the fact that life is going to change drastically didn't really faze me anymore, getting milk and diapers seemed a much more pressing issue. Honestly when I come to these forums (which I rarely do these days) the head for the hills attitude actually has become very humorous to me (What good heading for the hills is going to do has yet to be explained to me). A retarded monkey could tell you that our ecosystem is totally screwed. If peak oil doesn't get us climate change will, and no amount of discussion is going to change it a bit.........shit no amount of action is going to change it one bit. The time for that was about 30 years ago.

*Sigh* see what this place does to me. Anyway enough of my off topic rant, the point is this: Kid's are great, love em to death, get through it together, and be happy with what you have.

P.S. Our society sucks ass anyway I can't imagine a reason we should want it to stick around for any longer than absolutely necessary. I mean the dieoff sucks ass as well but at this point theres nothing we can do about it so I say out with the old hope to God we get it right next time.

Peace

[PrairieMule]

I have 2 daughters age 4 1/2 and the little one will turn 3 in April. My oldest Madeline, her name means "Tall Tower" and that is exactly what this girl wil be. She is very tall and physicaly active. She loves to go to the Family ranch and is facinated by cows, tractors and the Deer that run wild. In March I will take her back up there and we will plant vegtables on a 1/4 acre we fenced off last month.

Charlotte my other daughter, is very petite and still a mystery. She is still a little to small to take up to the ranch but that day will come soon.

Kids are indeed a burden but they both give me such passion and fufilment in my life. Right now the cost of sending these 2 to preschool runs about $1200 a month. The tradeoff for being near broke is what comes out of their mouths. Social skills, ABC's, science, learning Spanish: I'm just astonished. We have a good school system that Maddie will start Next August.