[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', '"')To raise enough insects to supply the protein needs in the form of crickets for a single man only require around more or less 1 m²..yes..you have read it well..one single square meter ! A small greenhouse well be needed for the needs of a family.. "

Schneider,do you have a source for that exciting info. you could post?

This is Great news, many grasshoppers and Locust are Kosher. Locust on the grill was an old Morrocan and Yeminite fav. I bet you could fry them in ghee...mmm

[The_Virginian]

GRATZI !

Up till' recently, I was overseas...and was actualy dissapointed that the Locust "plauge" only reached Eilat, me and a Buddy figured if it Reached Ber-Sheva we would head south to grill a few.

A sliver linning in an agricultural society, was when a swarm of Locust ate your grain, and you got to eat some fat Locust.

I have never eaten any, but I do want to get over my distaste for something my ancestors accepted as "normal" and if it such a good protien source, we will just have to adjust....

I actualy have a business plan for Nubian Goats and a small dairy farm...only need 250K

While a immature male goat soup is more inviting to my palate (better than chicken soup!) I find Locust as a cheaper alternative...can always keep a few goats anyway...

Now all we need is a Moderator to take your post and Stickey it in the "Preperations" section as "Raising Locust/Hoppers for Urban Protien"

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('The_Virginian', 'G')RATZI !

I actualy have a business plan for Nubian Goats and a small dairy farm...only need 250K

While a immature male goat soup is more inviting to my palate (better than chicken soup!) I find Locust as a cheaper alternative...can always keep a few goats anyway...

[The_Virginian]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locust

Non Amigo, they are pretty happy eating vegitation.

And Cereal crops are their favorite food.

By definition Kosher would prohibit the "creepy crawly" types of bugs, as well as the less palatable Insect eating bugs.

I wonder what their conversion rate for protien per pound is?

Chickens (or European Quail) are better for trade, at least for now. Locust are the kind of thing you could do inside a home...you just need some good quality feed (would grass clippings do? ).

Basicly STEALTH food production.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('tinosorb', 'H')ow vile sounding. I kind of feel sorry for the people who didn't inherit the "animal meat and fat is repulsive" gene. The world would be a much cleaner and better place. I don't understand why so many accept that cars can be polluting but refuse to acknowledge the impacts of their diets.

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'A') study in hunter-gatherer societies has shown that hunting big game isn't more efficient and it's certainly a riskier source of food, but it's better to impress your family and neighbours.

[smallpoxgirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'I')t is unclear if insects were ever a significant part of our nearest ancestor's diets.

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'I')t is unclear if insects were ever a significant part of our nearest ancestor's diets.

[The_Virginian]

Oh now this stuffed monster for brains has to learn his Amino Acids.

This is too rich....I love it...

We learn by Statements, Questions, Counter-answer and Counter-reply....All are important.

It's the Techno-Socratic method Folks!

This is the Golden Age of Communication...may the Peak be long.

[coyote]

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[Schneider]

Seldom is righ,The inuits live long and healthy almost entirely of animal fat and protein..one thing to keep in mind is : they live in a very windy place and the coldest climate on Earth,this count a lot !!!

Theses two factors make look them 20 years older than they really are !

One interesting side effect of this diet is that they have a lower bowel movement since the body is VERY efficient on a meat and fat only diet ! From writings of a white anthropologist called Vilhjalmur Stefansson who lived among them for some times and dying at a pretty old age at his time, people on mixed diet go to the "throne" each day or two..on a "meat only" diet (witch in fact,calories come at 80% from fat,on a ratio of 6 part of FRESH meat for 1 part of fat by weight), people go the the "throne" each five to eight days ! A nice thing when you're living in the Artic ...

As for the kind of fats, we thrive on mono-insaturated omega-3 filled fat..bones marrow and brains are plentyfull sources of this !

For thoses wondering ,i'm a reader fond of Weston A. Price and Stefansson,here some links..

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html
http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson1.htm
http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson2.htm
http://www.biblelife.org/stefansson3.htm


Schneider
French-Canadian

[coyote]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '
')People eat meat because it is good for them. You could eat pemmican exclusively for the rest of your life and live a long healthy life...

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coyote', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', '
')People eat meat because it is good for them. You could eat pemmican exclusively for the rest of your life and live a long healthy life...

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coyote', 'W')hat in the world are you talking about? Eat nothing but meat and animal fat for the rest of your life? Well, sure, but it wouldn't be a very long life, and you wouldn't feel very good, especially toward the end. It would be anything but long and healthy.

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coyote', 'A')re you honestly trying to take on the entire nutritional community

[The_Virginian]

Schneider wrote:

"For thoses wondering ,i'm a reader fond of Weston A. Price and Stefansson,here some links.."

Me too.


Nutritionists are "fed" many lies, like TVP is good for you, and Canola is Good for you. You cannot trust folks who go by Government food "pyramids" that are slanted in favor of Agronomic intrests, and not your health.

While I would not WANT to live on an mostly meat diet (I love my fruits, nuts and Veggies) it can be done.

Keep in mind our GRAIN FED cattle supply less Vitamin A (and others) than grass fed/grazed cattle do... so it is very hard to eat a truely traditional meal from your local grocery store. (this goes double for Vegtableand Vitamin Losses since 1975).

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coyote', 'W')hat in the world are you talking about? Eat nothing but meat and animal fat for the rest of your life? Well, sure, but it wouldn't be a very long life, and you wouldn't feel very good, especially toward the end. It would be anything but long and healthy.

[Schneider]

I could not agree more The_Virginian !

What is killing people today (along with auto-immuntes deseases caused by high intakes of grains,beans and potatoes) is the too high level of omega-6 filled fats ..

For pemmican making,i'll try to mix bones marrow with chunks of fat i can get at my butcher..if it tasted good to me and want to make it a lot,i know a farmer who pastures feed his cattles !

EDIT : seldom_seen,i'm actually finishing to read his book "The Fat Of The Land" ! One of the links i have provided have a extensive description of the year-long "meat-only" diet of Stefansson. So,the guy died at the ripe age of 83 years,kinda old even for today standarts,amazing isn't !?


Schneider
French-Canadian

[seldom_seen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Schneider', 'E')DIT : seldom_seen,i'm actually finishing to read his book "The Fat Of The Land" ! One of the links i have provided have a extensive description of the year-long "meat-only" diet of Stefansson. So,the guy died at the ripe age of 83 years,kinda old even for today standarts,amazing isn't !?

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'W')hich documents the unsuccessful attempt to find evidence of cancer or auto-immune disorders in hunter-gatherer societies.