[ALBY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'L')OL! Threats of physical violence now, is it? You crack me up, ament.

[lardlad]

Beware the SUV owner. Take away his toy and he'll hunt you down, or invade your country. It's non-negotiable.

[rockdoc123]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')hese fuel-efficient cars are rapidly becoming the new "average" car.

[ALBY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'B')eware the SUV owner. Take away his toy and he'll hunt you down, or invade your country. It's non-negotiable.

[lardlad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('rockdoc123', 'i')n North America the "average" car is almost invariably 10 years old

[mgibbons19]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'm')gibbons, I think you are specop would be happier elsewhere. Just a suggestion. There are lots of boards on the net where your views would be warmly welcomed.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ALBY', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'W')ouldn't it be ironic if the baby boomers, of whom I a tail-end member, and who ranted about "don't trust anyone over thirty!" wind up being sent to the gas chambers by young people who don't trust anyone over thirty?

[lardlad]

Gibbons, your own blog states:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n a free market the wise thing to do is to cut back on that resource. Period. Economics doesn’t care if you bought too big a house, or live too far from work, or drive your kids all over town for activities. The responsible citizen will husband his resources carefully. He will not make decisions that risk his family’s wealth and well being, and trap him economically. He will not buy an SUV, for instance.

[mgibbons19]

Thank goodness you're reading now.

My point is and always has been that cars are not the problem, the system is. Owning and driving an SUV where I live putting a whopping 5000 miles a year is not a problem. Owning and driving a Prius in southern california and putting 40k on it commuting is.

Further, given the recent downturn in truck prices, a decent SUV is a pretty good buy.

Even further, that truck is going to last at least 10 more years at these yearly mileages.

Now, back to that prius. In order to drive the morally superior vehicle, you have to pay almost 10k extra. Is that a wise use of a man's resources?

A wo/man has to be away from his family commuting an extra three hours a day.

And that prius has to be replaced every 3 years.

Now who is using resources more wisely? The knuckle draggin truck owner, or the morally superior greenie commuting up and down the coast?

[lardlad]

Gee, where does one start with this?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'M')y point is and always has been that cars are not the problem, the system is.

[mgibbons19]

Ok. Let me put it simply.

Arrange your life so that your yearly mileage is small, and it doesn't matter what vehicle you drive.

Arrange our cities so that ppl don't HAVE to drive, and it doesn't matter what vehicles they own.

Higher efficiency in cars is kind of cruel. It only allow us to invest more deeply and irreversibly into a dead end system. Higher efficiency does however let a segment of the population feel very superior about what they drive.

[lardlad]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'O')k. Let me put it simply.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'm')gibbons, I think you are specop would be happier elsewhere. Just a suggestion. There are lots of boards on the net where your views would be warmly welcomed.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'G')ee, where does one start with this?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mgibbons19', 'M')y point is and always has been that cars are not the problem, the system is.

[lardlad]

Specop, microcephalics like you are a dime a dozen. The Yahoo discussion boards are FULL of mental midgets with the same views. You seem to think that your radical conservative, no-government, leave-me-alone, laissez faire approach is smart, but it ain't'. If anything, it's your kind of intransigent individualism that underlies our worst problems.

I now understand why you are here: to troll the people who are debating the future by aggressively representing "those who will not be dictated to".

Welcome to my Ignore list. Plonk.

[ALBY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'W')elcome to my Ignore list. Plonk.

[Specop_007]

1 year wait on a Prius eh?
I checked 1 dealership in my area (First one i found) and they have two sitting on the lot.
One in silver, one in pearl.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lardlad', 'S')pecop, microcephalics like you are a dime a dozen. The Yahoo discussion boards are FULL of mental midgets with the same views. You seem to think that your radical conservative, no-government, leave-me-alone, laissez faire approach is smart, but it ain't'. If anything, it's your kind of intransigent individualism that underlies our worst problems.

I now understand why you are here: to troll the people who are debating the future by aggressively representing "those who will not be dictated to".

Welcome to my Ignore list. Plonk.

[lardlad]

Specop, I unblocked one of your messages to see why this thread has become quiet, I mean, why would people stop commenting just because some lout was throwing his weight around and using foul language, right people? Of course, your post claimed that Priuses are available at every venue, implying that I'm lying.

Once again, you're the fool.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Edmunds.com', '[')b]With Gas Prices Up, Prius Waiting List Stretches to at Least 3 Months

Date posted: 10-24-2005

TOKYO — Toyota Motor Corp. said late last week the waiting list for its gas-electric Prius has grown to three or four months in the United States, up from a two-month wait a month ago.

The Prius gets 60 miles per gallon in city driving and 51 mpg on the highway, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Toyota has said it plans to raise production of hybrids to 400,000 in 2006 from 300,000 in 2005.

[Specop_007]

First off, Pm's arent considered harassment.
Secondly, there PRIVATE for a reason. Since you like airing the laundry..

Go find another board ya fuckin loser.

And yes I'm calling you a liar. I found 2 Prius's sitting on the lot of the first dealership i looked at. I dont give a shit what your little cutesy news articles say, I checked AT THE DEALERSHIP. And THEY HAVE CARS.

So, keep banging your drum. "YAY! LOOK AT ME BANG BANG BANG YAY!! BANG BANG"

Fact is SUV's are a really small part of the problem no matter how you look at it.
Wait, let me re-phrase that.
SUV's are a real small part of the problem no matter how a logical, rational mature person looks at it.

Maybe people quit responding because they realize your simply ignorant on the issue. Thats ok, if you hang out here long enough you'll realize that too. Ignorant isnt stupid. You should spend more time trying to fully understand the problem and stop banging the drum.