[TorrKing]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukat', 'I') really don't think anyone here is ready for PeakOil, except maybe Killjoy. Who here can say, I have everything ready, I'm ready for PO. I seriously doubt anyone here is fully ready, and won't ever be fully ready.

[VinceG]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alpha480v', 'B')ut unless I win the New York Lottery,my wife and I will probably not survive long after tshtf.Oh well.Nothing I can do about geology.Were healthy.but most likely will die of the bird flu.Can't control that either.People like me will just fade away like old soldiers.

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') really don't think anyone here is ready for PeakOil, except maybe Killjoy.

[Doly]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('killJOY', '
')On the topic of "depression": I'm not so much depressed as irritated by the BigMouths' failure to correctly predict what would happened during the fabled "4Q05."

I'm speaking of Kunstler's "Christmas clusterfuck," Ruppert's "Rita will collape the US economy!!" and Simmons' cries of oil over $100/ barrel.

[AmericanEmpire]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')m I going to roll over and die because of peak oil?No.I will try to survive somehow.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

Hi KillJOY, it goes to show you how robust the US economey is. Kunstler is slightly right on his prediction of natural gas prices but the american people can still buy gas, there is no shortages, and Simmons claiming that the UK will have a gas supply problem and not able to heat their homes, doesn't look like it's going to happen. I watched "Denial Stops Here" by Ruppert, he said that the US dollar would fall during the 4th quarter, if not before. (I believe most of the video was made in may, as it was mentioned afew times in the video as being the date), granted gold has surged up somewhat, but still far from a dollar crash. I think usually there is truth in what they say, and their predictions do come out true in a very mild sense, but only very mild reaction compared to what they believe themselves. I guess if these guys didn't make bold predictions, no one would have heard of them in the first place.

[Pops]

Steady people!

Repeat after me:

Prepare as best you can for every eventuality,
even the one where nothing bad happens.


(great avatar duk!)

[jesus_of_suburbia_old]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n the topic of "depression": I'm not so much depressed as irritated by the BigMouths' failure to correctly predict what would happened during the fabled "4Q05."

[ubercynicmeister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lokutus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ubercynicmeister', 'N')ope, not here....I'm so darn BUSY I can't sink into a depression...and I'm unemployed, LOL! Now, if I had any debts, I'd be quaking in my boots, but, well, they don't loan money to unemployed people.

[Liamj]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jesus_of_suburbia', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n the topic of "depression": I'm not so much depressed as irritated by the BigMouths' failure to correctly predict what would happened during the fabled "4Q05."

[Ludi]

I've been getting seriously depressed from reading the boards here and realising how polarized we all are about how to deal with the situation. It sucks all the hope out of me.

Seriously, to the point of crying about it.

[PrairieMule]

I am more worried about some of ya'lls state of mind when the next season of "24" starts and people find more reasons to doom. What's next? Peak Anxiety! Peak Corn Flakes! Peak Toilet Paper! Seriously folks, lighten up. If you have not scanned my earlier post today here it is.

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic15668.html

You, the lurkers, and I-let's get our shit in a sock and pull it together. You are not the problem, you are the solution.....

[twub]

I'm sure worried about Peak Oil but hey that won't stop me skiing this season or just living pretty much the same way as always. As some one who has real depression and when asked by my GP at the last visit I said everything is just fine (whilst thinking about PO looking my GP in the eyes and thinking if only you know what I know). Maybe if/when PO does go mainstream we can all worry about it together. My wife thinks PO is a joke for sad cultists.

[malcomatic_51]

It's quite something to get to live through a crisis as momentous as mass energy starvation. I fail to see anything depressing about it. This cancerous economic behaviour had to hit the concrete ceiling sooner or later, it might as well be Peak Oil as Peak Water, Peak Soil, Peak Wheat or whatever. This is interesting. History in the making. Think of all the little Chinese and Russian kids who'll be learning about The Fall of The West a century from now. I expect it to be a bit like living through the Second World War, basically pretty alarming and spectacular while you're in it, but a hell of a time in your life if you come through it with all your bits still intact.

I despise the complacent, licentious society I live in and all the arrogance and indifference and hypocrisy it allows. I will not personally weep as it slides onto the dump of history. Good riddence to it.

[Hermes]

Warning: Self help-y therapist-y speak below. If it's like nails on the chalkboard I suggest skipping the post...

In my experience depression is anger turned inwards. That is: anger not allowed to vent, or be used constructively, but rather stewing inside a person without a proper outlet.

Anger is usually a mask for fear of loss. Anger is the force that we humans use to defend ourselves against loss (injury/attack/change/etc).

I suggest that those that are getting depressed take a look at themselves and see if the deeper root of the depression isn't actually fear, and in particular fear of loss.

I find it useful for myself to name the fear: to have it in front of myself so I can look at it.

If that fear is starving to death, or my family being killed, or being herded off to some government camp...or just in general NOT being properly prepared for PO...whatever my fantasy fear is... I find that when I take 30 seconds and just really LOOK at that fear it mysteriously dissipates.

To be clear I'm not suggesting that the problem goes away...just that the fear/depression often goes away. This has the double function of releasing me from the depression AND freeing me up to actually DO something about the issue. If I don't take care of the depression I find that I remainin trapped in the situation of being depressed...but unable to do anything about it precisely BECAUSE I'm depressed. It becomes cyclical with me if left unchecked.

I put this forth in the hope that it'll help someone else. And frankly...I'm putting it forth as a reminder to myself to do it more when I get depressed myself!

[drew]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I')'ve been getting seriously depressed from reading the boards here and realising how polarized we all are about how to deal with the situation. It sucks all the hope out of me.

Seriously, to the point of crying about it.

[Guest]

When I first began to read about these issues a few years ago I just dismissed them offhand as liberal / eco-nazi propaganda...My view changed as I began reading in the last year about some of the propaganda being dissiminated by energy buissnesses. I began to take a closer and more open view, and determined that doomer predictions are possable as a responce to PO. Now I feel lost, unsure what to do with my life.

[galacticsurfer]

I watch the price of oil and keep my eyes on things generally but don't let it get me down and take it all with a grain of salt. The world and the economy, the government and big businesses are like big ships that turn directions ever so slowly. Predictions of "the end" have been made for practically every year for any number of reasons. Peak oil is now popular. It will happen and become integrated into daily life(or death) and then people will get used to it just like the plague or the mongol hordes or a new ice age or whatever. I just cannot hold my breath on this one but integrate it into general patterns of behaviour and thinking patterns and relationships. The pollsters always do polls with a question"what worries you most" and a certian percentage of people say crime, inflation, unemployment, war, etc. These things change but it is like that in my head. what is the biggest worry? Job loss, climate change and freak weather(more all the time), peak oil( a realtivley new worry), being old(now 40) and poor without health insurance or pension(due to peak oil this worry recedes to a sad joke). Do a poll with people here. Waht are your 4 or 5 biggest worries?

[jc4patents]

I am certain others are responding to the awareness of peak oil as I am.

I am in the process of reading 5 of the latest books on this subject and recently began monitoring this site and others on this subject (e.g., ASPO).

As a result, I have found myself in deep depression. Although, at 75 and with no children, I will probably be spared most of the consequences, I have still found it hard to shake an awfully dark mood.

Today, I told my wife I just have to get out of this and enjoy our great life. I have thought for some time that we are fortunate to live in the greatest and most enjoyable of all times up to the present. Little did I realize that it is our good fortune to live in the best of all times - both past and future !

[canis_lupus]

jc4 -

The same thing happened to me when I read the Rolling Stone article, "The Long Emergency". I freaked out and found myself in a funk for about a month.

Eventually I came to accept what's on the horizon. I started to absorb more of the colorful life around me. Mrs. Canis_Lupus, my brother and his wife, playing music, and more.

This is the perspective that has kept me sane: if you are reading the books and message boards like this one -- and have an open mind --then you know what to do for you and yours.

Hang in there. Knowing is half the battle. Celebrating the good parts of your life is the other half.