[Dukat_Reloaded]

I stumpled on a experiment which seems to prove that peoples mental powers do infact cause effects even while they are physically distanced from the object. I normally would baulk at this, but they said if you don't believe us, do the experiment yourself. The national enquirer performed the experiment and produced positive conculsive results. I'm wondering if anyone here knows anything about this experiment or has performed it themselves or have any futher information to add.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')ELL-KNOWN healer Charles R. Collins says you don't need, faith healers to get well - you can do It yourself using the incredible power of the human mind.

And instead of dealing in vague mystical terms about the power of the mind, Collins say's he can offer living proof that mental power s a source of life and death, of sickness and health!

Collins, 47, lives in seclusion in Virgin, Utah, about 150 miles north of Las Vegas. It was in Virgin in the early '70s that Collins first discovered the mind is an instrument that can be tuned and controlled as easily as a musician can tune and control a fine instrument.

The result of mind control, says Collins, is amazing benefits to health and peace of mind. Collins says after he cleansed himself of disease and shed 80 pounds he decided to spread his message to others.

He wrote a book, The ABC's of Life, and,opened a practice as a ith healer in Miami in the mid-70s. The basis of his philosophy is own in a simple experiment, he says.

" 'Take eight to 10 good-sized carrots," he told the Examiner, and cut off the top, leaving about half an inch of carrot attached to the top. "Be sure to cut any green sprouts coming from the tops. Then place four or five carrot tops in two dishes of water. Mark one dish with a 'plus' sign and the other with a 'minus' sign. Place both dishes on a sunny window sill.

Love (+)

"Several times a day pick up one dish, tell the carrots how beautiful they are and encourage them to grow.

Hate (-)
Do the opposite with the others: curse them, hate them and think negative thoughts toward them.

"Ninety-nine percent of the time, the 'plus' carrots will sprout and flourish while the ,minus' ones will wither and die."

This simple carrot experiment offers proof, says Collins, of living power of the human Mind.

If you can kill growth out your body in such an obvious way," he said, "just think of the damage you're doing inside your body by thinking negative thoughts. I truly believe that this is the basis all sickness!"

While Collins is no longer active faith healer, he has an impressive case book of successful cures.

"I remember one woman who was crippled with arthritis, "She was taking pills like crazy. I asked what had happened about six months before her arthritis started and she told me that her husband had run,out on her. The whole reason she had the disease was because she still lived with that negative memory - the negative thoughts were making her sick.

"Another lady from Salt Lake City suffered from mind shattering headaches for over 40 years, " he said. "The headaches were cured when the woman re-directed her negative mental energy into positive thinking. "

Collins also remembers a woman suffering from hiatus, hernia, resulting in spasms so severe she could scarcely breathe. By helping the woman discover her own mental energies she stopped taking powerful painkilling pills and to live a normal life.

"I've discovered that people attached to their diseases - they really don't want to get well ' They often live with sickness for so long it becomes a pan of them. You often see big changes in- diseases, but they don't last," he said. "I've seen cases in which a physician' testifies there's been an actual change in body chemistry.

"But a few days or weeks later, the patient is sick again. In many cases he just doesn't want to be well ' he refuses to heal himself I" Fed up with the negative thinking that keeps people sick, Collins has given up healing. But he still claims you can heal yourself.

"The carrot experiment shows you what you can do," he insisted. "You can control the power in and around your mind. And once you learn to do that, you'll be free of disease forever! "

But in spite of his brilliant successes, Collins gave up faith healing and retreated to the isolation of a mountain top in Utah.

TO TEST Collins' carrot growing experiment, the National Examiner decided to conduct the experiment in the office.

We took six carrot tops and divided them into two groups of three. We gave them equal amounts of water and sunlight under carefully controlled conditions.

Our staff treated one group with contempt and the other with positive, loving thought.

To our amazement, the experiment worked! The bad' carrots turned brown and died while the 'good' ones sprouted rich green shoots!

[Dukat_Reloaded]

These are the images from the quoted webpages

[Specop_007]

It should be pointed out the National Enquirer also posts articles about people having alien babies.
It other words, if the NE runs an article on it, it most likely is NOT true.

Which is weird, because to an extent what Mr. Collins is saying (About plants) is true. Talking to them is a good thing. No clue why though.

[Doly]

If for some reason you decide to hate a bunch of carrots, you probably don't water them as regularly as the carrots you decided to love.

[Specop_007]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'I')f for some reason you decide to hate a bunch of carrots, you probably don't water them as regularly as the carrots you decided to love.

[PenultimateManStanding]

There's another guy whose done interesting experiments with plants. I don't remember his name but he did this: he put some lobsters above a boiling pot of water, rigged to be dropped at the push of a button. Then he hooked up some plants in the same room with a modified lie-detector machine. Then he left the room and pushed a remote-control button to drop the lobsters into the boiling water. The plants were registering a placid bio-electrical tracing right up to the moment when the lobsters fell to their death, at which point the tracings on the graph paper went wild. Evidence perhaps that plants have perceptions which we humans can only begin to ponder.

[Jake_old]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'T')here's another guy whose done interesting experiments with plants. I don't remember his name but he did this: he put some lobsters above a boiling pot of water, rigged to be dropped at the push of a button. Then he hooked up some plants in the same room with a modified lie-detector machine. Then he left the room and pushed a remote-control button to drop the lobsters into the boiling water. The plants were registering a placid bio-electrical tracing right up to the moment when the lobsters fell to their death, at which point the tracings on the graph paper went wild. Evidence perhaps that plants have perceptions which we humans can only begin to ponder.

[PenultimateManStanding]

I recall dabbling in theosophy in my youth. They place a great emphasis on the spirit side of the plant world.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

I'm going to go down to the supermarket and buy some carrots and test the experiment. I'll take a photo daily and post the results in this thread. Does anyone have webspace for me to upload images?

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukat', 'I')'m going to go down to the supermarket and buy some carrots and test the experiment. I'll take a photo daily and post the results in this thread. Does anyone have webspace for me to upload images?

[Antimatter]

Useless without a proper double blind test.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Antimatter', 'U')seless without a proper double blind test.

[Antimatter]

True, but I can't help thinking Doly's explaination has a lot to do with it.

[Dukat_Reloaded]

Antimatter, all I'm trying to do is recreate the experiement in the "ABC's of life" book. I don't know how to conduct a double blind study, but then again I'm not going to attempt to send my work to get published in the Medical Science Journal or other publications.

[PenultimateManStanding]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dukat', 'A')ntimatter, all I'm trying to do is recreate the experiement in the "ABC's of life" book. I don't know how to conduct a double blind study, but then again I'm not going to attempt to send my work to get published in the Medical Science Journal or other publications.

[ashurbanipal]

You could have one person whose job it is to take care of the physical needs of the carrots and another whose sole job is to hate or love them.

The first person would have to be responsible for picking the carrots out to begin with, to keep any hint of prior preference out of it (i.e. the love/hate person choosing the biggest, best looking carrots to love). Or better yet, find a way to randomize selections over several trials.

I'm not sure how a double blind study could be done here, but that wouldn't make the experiment worthless as long as other controls were applied rigorously.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

There is a Japanese doctor who has made studies on the effects of thought energy on water. The results were amazing.

He took samples of water from all over the world. Some were affected by prayers, some by words like I hate you, or you make me sick. Then he photographed them under an electron microscope. Simply Amazing! The link above has some of his pictures.

He is featured on a movie called "what the bleep do we know". I can't say enough good things about this movies concepts.

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', 'T')here is a Japanese doctor who has made studies on the effects of thought energy on water.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pproach 'miracles' with caution...

[emersonbiggins]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('uNkNowN ElEmEnt', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')pproach 'miracles' with caution...